1 Cor. 10+11 (one theme)
the nations of spirits come
to this earth – which will be
‘the cup of wrath’ for Jacob
finding the theme [-of this 10 and next chapter]
… both chapters were so incredibly corrupted
that first we had to look which usuable words show up – and we found
– demons (=in this 10)
– crossing over (=to a land)
– a cup (=but not ‘of the Lord’ – but of ‘wrath’ ! ,
while this ‘cup’ shows again at the end of next 11)
– provoke (=in this 10 : provoking God , in relation to demons)
– covenant (=showing in 10 but required here also) ;
buildup [-of this 10 and 11]
- part I : like old-Ishral crossed the (red-) sea ,
also the remnant (=144) will cross over to the eden land ;
to rebuild the land which was destroyed by the nations of spirits —
because the main theme here is “describing the power of the spirits” ; - part II :
in our days “the people will have lost the belief” – read : per prophets
(because in prévious chapters Paul addresses “committing prostitution”,
which is – like in prophets – the belief of “the gospel only”) ,
and they factually invited the nations of spirits to come to earth
which will be “the cup of wrath” of God towards Jacob ; - part III :
explanation about the difference between ‘this earth’ and the eden land ;
continuing into 1 Cor. 11 ; - part IV : (in 1 Cor.12) ,
heavily corrupted sections —
because ‘the cup’ again appears in the second half ,
we think to interpret it as “now the cup of wrath is given to the spirit-nations”
(as the type buildup the prophets also use) ,
but it is so deeply corrupted that we can only restore a draft version ;
(1 Cor. 12) :
the non-existing “women must be covered” section :
… it’s too pathetic for words what Esau inserted there —
he but ‘filled up space’ with his drivel , to create 2 separate – unrelated – chapters ;
[perhaps we will add the theme “the relation between ‘the eden land’ and ‘Heaven’]
corruptions : extreme
… first for reason that ofcourse Esau wanted to hide ‘the other reality’ theme ,
but see next ;
overall context : restored
… context of this 10 now runs properly (as opposed to Esau’s / KJV version) ;
yet
Esau so dragged on about his “woman vs men” theme (=in first half of 11) ,
it is difficult there to find a solid bridge to “the cup now given to the nations of spirits” ;
1 Cor. 10 [-as part I]
1 [KJV : what is ‘under the cloud’..?]
[=now] – brethren ,
[..2x..] you – (are) aware – that – our – fathers + [<< old-Ishral]
b
(..travelled..) – all=to – [=the] – (..promised..) (nephelé=epangelia) – (..land..) (eimi=gê) ,
c
and – [=that] – they (had) to cross – through – the – [red-] sea ;
above :
the end of the introduction ! , because the theme of this chapter is now posed ;
2
[=now] ,
[..] the – (..remnant..) [=’144’] + (móusés=leimma)
(will) – [+also] (..travel..) + (baptizó=apodêmeô)
in=to – (a-) – (..promised..) (nephelé=epangelia) – (..+land..) ;
b
[=but] – (..+they (will have) to cross..) – (a-) – sea + [<< dimension]
3
[..] all=as – (..crossing..) – (a-) spiritual – [type-] (..sea..) ; (bróma=thalassa)
4
[=because] – (..they will travel..) (apodêmeô) – all=to – the – spiritual – (..land..) (auto=gê) ,
b
[+as] (..returning..) +
(to the-) (..sacred..) (pinó=hagios) – (..mountain..) (gar=oros) – (of-) (..God..) ; [Heb.12:22]
c
[+as]
(the-) (..souls..) (petra=psychê) – (..leaving..) – the – rock – (..which..) – is – (..this land..) ;
5
[=and] – [..] [+they] (..(will) restore..) (eudokéo=apokathistêmi) – [=our] – (..[eden-] land..) ,
b
(..which..) – (the-) (..demons..) – (had) (..destroyed..) – [..] into – [being-] (a-) – wilderness ;
(katastrónnumi=kathaireô)
[6b+c : restored lineup]
6
[=because] – the things – (of the-) (..[eden-] land..) – (had) become – (to-) [=them] ,
b
into=as – the – desirable [+things] – (..which..) – (had been) (..appointed..) (to-) ús ,
c
[+but] (..which..) – they [=’demons’] also – desired [-to have] ;
7
[=and] – [=théy] became – (the-) (..rulers..) – as=over – [..] them=her ;
b
as – it (has been) written : [restored 7b+c: att. in prophets]
the – [=nations] [=’of spirits’] – (..plundered..) [+her] ,
c
[+in order] to [can-] eat – and – drink – [..] (the-) (..produce..) (?) – (..of the land..) (?) ;
next section (lines 8-10) was extremely corrupted —
… the theme we would need must be “examples of the craftful power of the demons”
as needed introduction to part II ;
while line 11 suggests that these examples “were written” (read :according to prophets) ,
therefore we restored lines 7-10 accordingly ;
now – a logic can be
line 8 : they did something to our soul or body (=needed for next line 9 as follow-up) ,
while the term “immorality” is also used for Mystery-Babylon (in Revelation) ;
line 9 : now the reason why Christ has come to earth
(the theme ‘this earth’ and ‘eden’ fits after the first lines of this chapter) ;
line 9 : our attempt –
and should repeat a description of their power , as bridge to next section ;
8
[=they] – (..also..) – (did) immorality – as=against – [..] [+our] (..soul..) (pornuéo=psychê) ,
b
and=by – (..placing her..) (?) – one=upon – [+this] (..land [=’earth’]..) (hémera=gê) ,
c
(..as..) (?) – (..the prison..) (?) (eikosi=oikêma) – (..for us..) (?) ; [<< our attempt]
9 [=they] – (..even..) – put [..] Christ – to the test ,
b
as – [..] [+his] trial – (for-) [=us] – (..who..) – (..were..) – (..far away..) (?) ;
[=so that] – [+our] (..souls..) (ophis=psychê) – (would) (..+not..) – perish ;
10
[+and] [=though] (?) – (..he [=Christ] (was) victorious..) (?) (gogguzó=nikaô) ,
b
[..] [+they] – some=still – (have) (..dominion..) (?) (gogguzó=katakyrieuô ; ggo=kko?) ,
c
and=as – (..the might..) – [..] (of the-) destroying – (..demons..) (?) ;
part II — deel II and those powerful spirits will come to earth :
11
[=now] ,
these – [..] examples – [of what-] happened – (were) written – [..] [=as] – warning
b
[=to] – [=those] – (upon) whom – the – end – (of-) the – world – (will have) arrived ;
12
[=because] – (..many..) – (will) think – [that-] [+they] stand firm ,
b
[=but] – [=they] (do) – (..+not..) – see – [that-] [+they] (will) fall ;
13
[+for] – (a-) trial – [..1x..] – (will) overtake [=’seize’] – [=them] , [<< per 9b]
b [13b : 1 Cor. 15]
[=as] – (the-) people +
(who will) not – (have) [+the right] belief (-anymore) ; [<< ‘gospel only’]
c
[=therefore] – [..] God – [..] (will) leave [+them] behind – [=for] – (to be) tried ,
d
above=and – [=they] (will) which=not – (be) able – [..] (..to escape..) – [..] the – trial ,
e
and=as – [..] to flee from – the – (..arriving..) (?) – (..demons..) (dunamai=daimonion) ;
14
[=because] – (..the people..) – (will) love [..2x..] – [+their] idolatry ,
b
as (..worshipping..) (legó=latreuô) – (the-) (..+images..) – (of the-) (..demons..)
15 (phronimos=daimonos) ,
[+therefore] ,
[+they] (will be) judged – [..] what=by – (..meeting them..) (phémi=apantaô) ;
above 13+14 :
… the (restored) context is indeed according to prophets ,
who mention “the people sacrificing upon the high places , through their idols”,
factually having invoked the nations of spirits to come to earth ;
2.
the ‘images’ : see those same prophet chapters ;
part II b context of next 16-18 below
context of next 16-19 below :
… because they sacrificed to idols , for the sake of their flesh ,
their flesh will be sacrificed BY the idols (=demons) ;
16
[+as] the – cup – [..] (of-) (..wrath..) – which – [=they] (..(will have to) drink..) ,
b
[very corrupt :] [b+c : dual expression]
not=because – (..the demons..) (koinónia=daimonos) +
(..(will) shed..) (esti=ekcheô) – [=their] – blood – [..2x..] ,
c
[..2x..] [=as] – (..slaying..) (klaó=sphazô) +
[..3x..] – [=their] – body – [=with] – (..the sword..) (christos=machaira) [..1x..] ;
17
[totally corrupt :]
(..and – .. the bodies – ..of the slain – .. will fill – .. the land , [<< our attempt]
because – .. they have provoked .. God – ..to anger..) ; [ << requested]
18
[corrupt :]
[=as] – [..] [+the house] (?) – (..Jacob..) (?, comp. line 1) +
(..who..) – sacrificed to idols [=’l.19’] – (..for the sake of..) – [=their] – flesh ,
b
(..which..) – (will) be – altar=sacrificed – [+by] (..the demons..) (koinónia=daimonos) ;
buildup of 16-18 , used themes :
1 cup of wrath
2 provoke to jealousy [<< we inserted here]
3 sacrifice to idols
next 19-21 :
3 NO sacrifice to idols
2 NOT provoke to jealousy
1 NO cup of wrath
part III — deel III first : about the 144,000
[19-22 : the juxtaposition]
19
what=but – then=the – (..remnant..) [=’line 2’] +
will – (..+nót..) – (..(have) loved..) – [=their] – (..flesh..) [=’per 18’] ,
b
or=as – (..+not..) – (..having..) – [..] sacrificed to idols ,
20
[deleted 4x] [<< corrupt / superfluous]
b
(..+which..) (is) – sacrificing – (to-) demons – and – not – (to-) God ;
c
[+because] – [=they] (did) not – want – to be – companions – [..] (of-) demons ;
21
[+therefore] +
[=they] (..will..) – nót – drink – (the-) cup – (of-) (..wrath..) ,
b
[very corrupt – but should be the juxtaposition of line 16 :]
and – (the-) demons – (will) not – (..shed..) – (..their blood..) ,
(.. as – ..slaying – ..their body – ..with – ..the sword..) ;
22
[=for] – [..2x..] [=they] (will) – (..not..) – (have) provoked – [..] (..God..) – to anger ;
part III b (next – now a reason must follow)
in below 23-29
we remained with the term “covenant” – but it may have been ‘prophets’ or ‘scriptures’ ;
however , ‘the covenant’ always denotes “the return to God’s reality”,
and because of that colour (and compare first lines of this chapter) we stayed with this one ;
22b
no=because – (..they (will have) discovered..) (ischurus=heyriskô) [..1x..] +
23
[=that] – (..the scriptures..) – [..] (are) not – [..] prófitable – (to-) but=them ,
b
me=as – (..the corrupted one..) – but=which – (do) not – [..] edify [=’have no buildup’] ;
24
[=then] – [=they] (will) seek – the – (..right one..) ,
b
but=as – the (-one) – (..speaking..) – [..] differently ;
25
a [deleted] [<< very corrupt , and 3111 doesn’t even exist]
b
[=and] [+they] (will) examine +
[..1x..] the – (..covenant..) (suneidésis=diathêkê) – (..+ of God..) , +
26 [25+26 : see part I]
[the covenant-] (..+saying that..) +
[..] [+this] – land [=’earth’] – and – the – fullness – (of-) it – (is) (..+nót..) – [..] (of-) God ;
next 27-30 : see f.e Jeremiah , “I will go to the learned ones : perhaps théy…” ;
and below theme will return in chapter 11 :
[27a : ‘unbelievers’ = unlikely]
27
if=then – [+they] (will) invite – anyone – (..who..) – (would be) willing – to believe (-it) ,
b
(..to read..) – (..the writings..) (?) – [..] presented – (to-) [=them] , [<< prob. the site]
c
eat=asking – [=them] +
to examine (-themselves) – [=what] – the – (..covenant..) (suneidésis=diathêkê) [-of God] +
28a
[..3x..] says – (to-) [=them] : [next : compare part I:]
b
this=how – [..1x..] – [there-] is – [..] [=this] [..3x..] yonder [=’overthere’] – (..land..) (mê=gê) ,
c
(of-) (..which..) – [..] the – (..covenant..) [=’27c’] – informs – [=them] +
d
for=that – it (is) – the – land – and – the – fullness – (of-) it – (which is of-) (..God..) ;
29
[=because] – (..the covenant..) [=’27c’] – says +
[+that] – (he did) – nót – (..make..) – [+this] (..land [=earth’]..) – but – [..] the – other one ,
b
[=as] – what=the – (..[eden-] land..) (gar=gê) – [..] (..he made..) +
(..which..) – (..manifests..) (krinó=phanerio ; ch.11:19)
by=in – the other – (..existence [=’reality’]..) (suneidésis=eimi) ;
part III c , closing (but the people don’t think so)
lines 31-33 below :
… first 30 is clear – but WHAT exactly Paul had the people saying ?
their anwer must refer back to “the other land” in previous section ,
including a reference to “the given warning” of line 11 (here as ‘danger’, sic) ;
and matching the start of chapter 11 (see below) ;
[theme of 30-33 : attested in prophets]
30
if=but – (..the people..) – (..(will) say..) [..1x..] : [<< but not : to us…]
b
what – (is) [=this] – heresy – (to-) which – [=they] – (..hold on to..) ? ;
(eucharisteó=echó)
31
[=because] – (..we know..) – [+that] (..he made..) – [=this] – (..land [=’earth’]..) ,
b
or=but – (it is) (..never..) (..written..) + [<< comp. line 11]
[+that] (..he made..) – (..anóther one..) – [+as] (..having..) (the-) glory – (of-) God ;
32
[+therefore] ,
[+their] (..reading..) + (ginomai=anaginôskô)
(is) (a-) stumbling-block (=proskoptó) – [=for] – (..believers..) ,
b
and=as – (a-) (..danger..) (hellén=episphalês) – [..] (to-) the – church [-of God] ; [line 10]
33
[=because] – [+they] please – (..to read..) – [in-] [=their ówn] – (..way..) (pas=tropos) ,
b
no=as – seeking – profit – the=for – [+them-] selves ;
c
but – (..no-one..) – [..] (will be) saved – many=by – it . [<< sic : see this chapter…]
[04.23apr.2021 completed — first version and definitive]
[part II (1 cor 10) will follow later]