(#C) Rev. 12+4 : the Dragon
(-beast) opposing the woman
who represents Eden
(NO ’24 elders’ but ‘the woman’!)
Rev. 4: the woman now atop
of the restored eden Gate
as Throne room – in the North
[theme: ‘the Other Reality’]
[final version ; 2022-08aug.29]
part #B : continued from the ‘the Beast’ chapter contents : chapter 12 : intro fulltext (click) restored text chapter 4 : intro fulltext (click) restored text |
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please : forget a moment what you’ve read a million times in KJV
the ‘dragon VS the woman’ theme
… we really did not change thát much in this chapter – however :
the dragon did not ‘swipe a third of the stars from heaven” ,
did not “fight with his angels against Michael and his angels”
and was not “as Satan and his angels cast to the earth”
theme : the mortal enemies of the 144 are ‘the sons of Ammon’ :
the main theme is ‘the man child’ which the woman births
representing “our souls restored in our Originals” ,
when this will happen , they will restore Eden because they are
her caretakers — but ‘the sons of Ammon’ , read: Esau ! –
are the caretakers of théir (false-) paradise
and therefore always have hindered the 144.000 to become !
[fulltext + better intro will follow
but we first need to post the parts – for Legal reasons]
Revelation 12
fulltext : [start : the virgin represents Eden :]
1
then a great sign appears in heaven :
a woman clothed with the sun , [b: see ch. 4 below]
and the moon underneath her feet ,
and having on her head a crown of twelve stars ;
2
and she , about to have a child , is crying , [birthing the 144]
being in travail and in pain to bring forth ;
3 [Satan appears :]
then I see another sign in heaven , and behold ! ,
a great red dragon , having seven heads and ten horns ,
and seven crowns upon his heads ;
4
he had taken a third of her seed (as ‘souls’) + [see line 17!]
for to become his sons , [<< ‘sons of Ammon’]
and had placed them upon the land (-of the Beast) ; [<< M-Babylon]
b
and now the dragon is standing in front of the woman that is about to bring forth ,
in order to devour her child as soon as she would deliver ;
5
and she brings forth a firstborn son [<< or ‘male – child’]
who will rule all the nations (‘of spirits’) with an iron staff ;
and her child is snatched away to the mountain of God ; [<< mt. tsiun]
6
and the remnant (‘souls’) of the seed of the woman
are gathered from the earth and álso brought to the mountain
where God restores them ,
so that they become the sons and daughters of God there ;
7
then they are being sent +
to war against the land (-of the Beast) : [<< line 4]
the sons of God battle against their enemies + [for daughters don’t]
as the sons of the dragon , [<< Ammon sons]
8
but those do not prevail ,
and all are being slain upon their land (-of the Beast) ;
9
then the great city of the land (-of the Beast) falls , [<< Mystery-Babylon]
called the great whore + [Rev. 17]
that whores with the inhabitants of the earth ;
she sinks into the sea and will not be found anymore ;
[part II : Christ speaks :]
10
then I hear the voice of the Lord saying to me : [<< see ch. 4]
now will come into being the land of Eden as the garden of God
having the rule of David (‘eden-rule’) ; (?)
b
because the enemies (‘Ammon sons’) of the sons of God have perished ,
as their adversaries that have hindered their (‘144’) return (‘to eden’) +
for a very long time
(-and therewith the restoration of Eden) ; [b: compare line 2 !]
11
for they conquered their enemies (‘sons of Ammon’) through the blood of the Lamb ,
and because their soul desired to understand the word of their God ;
12
therefore the sons and the daughters (‘as 144’) will rejoice ,
but woe ! to their (‘144’) people (‘Jacob’) on the earth as the one far off ,
because the nations (‘of spirits’) will descend unto them ,
having great wrath , desiring to execute it upon them ; [they LOST !]
[part III : intro to chapter 4:]
13
and when the dragon will see that he lost his land (-of the beast) ,
he will (try-) destroy the women (‘as eden’) who brought forth the male (-child) ;
14
but she is given two wings as from an eagle + [<< attribute of 144 ; chapter 4]
so that she might fly to the wilderness + [<< north of M-Babylon]
as her own place ;
[end : goto fulltext chapter 4] (click)
Revelation 12
start : the virgin representing the eden paradise :
[keep in mind :] the enemies of the 144 are ‘the sons of Ammon’ (Esau !)
1
[=then] – (a-) great – sign – appears – in – [..] heaven :
b
(a-) woman – clothed – with – the – sun , [b: see ch. 4 below]
and – the – moon – underneath – [..] her – feet ,
and (having-) – on – [..] her – head – (a-) crown of – twelve – stars ;
2
and – she , [=about] – to have – (a-) [=child] , (is) crying ,
(being) in travail – and – in pain – to bring forth ;
note :
… indeed she is ‘the eden mother’ that births our Originals
but the “weeping” description here is symbolical because the dragon
and his minions hinder this birth — see the rest of this chapter ;
3
[=then] – I see another – sign – in – [..] heaven , and – behold ! ,
b
(a-) great – red – dragon , having – seven – heads – and – ten – horns ,
and – seven – crowns – upon – [..] his – heads ;
note :
… the ‘seven’ seems strange because that is a Heaven’s number
but here it indicates “copying” – through stolen aspects ,
shown by the ‘ten (-horns)’ as not a Heavenly number ;
next : please read carefully :
4
[..] [+he] (had) dragging=taken +
the=a – third of – [..] his=her – tail=seed (as ‘souls’) + [line 17]
b
the=for – (to) stars=become – [..] [+his] heaven=sons , [<< ‘sons of Ammon’]
c
and – (had) cast=placed – them – in=upon – the – land (-of the Beast) [M-Babylon] ;
d
and [+now] – the – dragon – (is) standing – in front of – the – woman +
(that is-) about – to bring forth ,
e
that=in order – to devour – [..] her – child – as soon as – she (would) deliver ;
5
and – she brings forth – (a-) male=firstborn – son [<< or : ‘male – child’]
b
who – (will) shepherd=rule – all – the – nations (‘of spirits’) – in=with – (an-) iron – staff ;
c
and – [..] her – child – (is) snatched away +
to – the – throne=mountain (thronos=oros !) (mt. tsiun) – [..] of God ; + [see note]
note :
… the mountain of God ‘carries the eden land’ ; question is whether this (still)
unexplained theme was used — or a more general expression as “snatched away
to be under the protection of God” ; yet in prophets it always is ‘the mountain’ ,
and see how we will need that in next 6 :
next : the souls of the 144 saved from earth :
[line 6 : it is not so that the theme ‘the woman fleeing to the wilderness’
is worked out in later lines 13-14 because that is Esau’s corruption :
this line 6 is about the 144 :]
6
and – [+the remnant] (‘souls’) – (of the-) [+seed] (of-) the – woman [line 17]
b
(was) fled=gathered – into=from – the – wilderness=earth
c
where=and (-álso) – has=brought – [+to] (the-) place=mountain (topos=oros !) ,
d
[+where] – [..] God – prepare=restores – from=them
e
so that – [..1x..] – they feed=become +
f
her=the – days=sons – [+and] – 1000=daughters of – 200=God – 60=there (?) ;
note :
… we now restored the link between “the male child brought to the mountain”
and “the souls brought to there” + ‘the restoration’ ;
7
[=then] – [+they] (are being) was=sent +
to war – in=against – the – heaven=land (-of the Beast) : [<< line 4]
b
the (!) – michael=sons – [..] of angels=God [..] [for daughters don’t]
battle – against – [..] [+their] dragon=enemies +
c [c: line 4b]
and=as – [..1x..] [..] – the – angels=sons of – the – dragon , + [<< Ammon sons]
8
[=but] – (those-) (do) not – prevail ,
neither=and – place=all – (are being) found=slain +
[..] in=upon – [..] [+their] heaven=land (-of the Beast) ;
9
[=then] – the – [..] great – dragon=city of + [<< Mystery-Babylon]
b
[..1x..] – the old=land (-of the Beast) – cast=falls ,
c
[..] called – the – [..] satan=great (satanas=magas) – devil=whore + [Rev. 17]
d
(that-) deceives=whores – (with-) the – [=inhabitants] of – (the-) whole=earth ;
e
[=she] cast=sinks – into – the – earth=sea
and – [..] (will) angels=not – [..1x..] [..] (be) cast=found (-anymore) ;
part II
(Christ speaks)
next : the restoration of Eden :
10
[=then] – I hear – the voice of – (the-) loud=Lord (megas=kurios) +
saying – in=to – [..] heaven=me : [<< see ch. 4]
b
now – (will come into-) being +
the – salvation=land of – [..] power=Eden – and=as – the – kingdom=garden of – [..] God
and=having – the – rule of – [..] Christ=David (‘eden-rule’) [..] ; (?)
b
because – the – accuser=enemies (‘Ammon sons’) of +
the – brethren=sons of – him=God (houtos=theos) – (have) cast=perished ,
c
[=as] – [..] their – accusing=adversaries + [<< reconfirmed subject now]
d
(that-) (have) before=hindered – [..] us=their (‘144’) – god=return (‘to eden’)
(-a) night=very – and=long – day=time
(-and therewith the restoration of Eden) ; [b-c-d: compare line 2 !]
note :
… in 10a Esau used the trick (as in ch.4) to let “a” voice speak so that
he could write ‘Christ’ in 10b to corrupt the theme there ;
11
[=but] – [+they] conquered – [+their] they=enemies (‘sons of Ammon’)
through – the – blood of – the – Lamb , +
b
and – because – [..] their – soul – loved=desired – [..] to death=understand
the – word of – [..] their – testimony=God (marturias=theos) ;
note :
… Esau tried to suggest here “a first christianity type attitude”
but that is ofcourse not corresponding with the running theme ,
especially because the next chapters will show the corrupted scroll problem ;
12
[=therefore] +
the heavens=sons – and – the – [..] [..] dwell=daughters (‘as 144’) – (will) rejoice ,
b
[+but] woe ! – [..] (to-) [+their] (‘144’) inhabitants=people (‘Jacob’) – (on-) the – earth +
and=as – the (-one) – sea=far off , [<< also said in prophets]
c
because – the – adversary=nations (‘of spirits’) – (will) descend – unto – [=them] ,
d
having – great – wrath , [d: they LOST already !]
knowing=desiring – to time=execute (-it) – that=upon – short=them ;
note :
… that ‘the adversary is come down to you’ (KJV) is a serious deflection
because people will link that to the totally corrupted 1 Peter (-5)
and turn the meaning into some abstract Bogeyman concept
but indeed here was meant “demon armies invading earth” ;
part III
(intro to next chapter 4)
13
and – when – the – dragon – (will) see +
that – he cast=lost – [..] – [..] [+his] land (-of the beast) ,
b
he (will) persecute – the women (‘as eden’) – who – brought forth – the male (-child) ;
14
[=but] – two – wings – (as from-) – (an-) – eagle (‘attribute of 144’)
(were) given – (to-) the – woman – [..1x..] + [14a-b: see ch. 4 below]
b
so that – she (might) fly – to – the – wilderness (‘north of Mystery-Babylon’)
to=as – [..] her (-own) – place ;
c [here : probable end of chapter 12]
[utterly corrupt and 6x no usable roots left]
15 [corrupt] [nothing – not even remótely – in prophets supports the
suggested event here : therefore we declare it Esau’s invention]
16 [corrupt] [idem]
17 [corrupt] [was already said in line 12]
(total lines : 14 ; plus the 11 lines of ch. 4 makes 25 = acceptable)
Revelation 4 [-as continuation]
theme (-of ch.4)
the restored situation of chapter 12 above
… where John in the above chapter only saw the signs but not the meaning ,
now he is made to understand the restored eden Gate north of the evil realm —
this chapter
describes ‘the Throne’ standing in the restored gate , the four cherubs flanking
the throne and the seven Torches standing on the sea of glass before it ;
now
this chapter was the continuation of theme of the Revelation woman
but Esau needed to conceal the restoration of Eden theme – hence he did
allow the rather vague chapter 12 above : but he cut this one off of that ,
then distorted its line buildup so that the “144,000 theme” would be erased
from the text and invented a concept of “24 elders” :
the invented ’24 elders’ :
… many – including we ! – have speculated about what they could represent
but no explanation makes any Sense : until you see that Esau made a rather
pathetic parody upon the Revelation woman :
– the “twenty + four + elders” is a trick he used in móre chapters in this book ,
meaning we need to find a three-fold OTHER expression
and only “the virgin of – the land of – eden” is appliable , also because ,
– next ,
these ’24’ are “clothed with white garments” —
but who else is “clothed” yet in that case “clothed with the sun” ? ,
– while
these ’24’ have “a crown of gold upon their heads” —
but who else has a crown — eventhough that is “of 12 stars” ? ;
then you also know where that ’24’ came from : he simply doubled the ’12’ ;
the virgin ‘standing upon the gate’ :
… to be fair we can’t 100% prove that because it is by association —
for example she is equated with “the (eden-) banner” in prophets suggesting this ,
while the – original – carefully phrased buildup works from “inside the room”
towards “outside it” , supporting a proof that she stands atop in lines 9-10 below ,
but a large confirmation was ofcourse the above chapter ;
the theme of ‘the eyes’ (line 8) :
… in the last Isaiah chapter is the phrase “lift up your eyes round about”
but said to the daughter — therefore the eden land must be within the
dimensionally-huge cherub wheel (Ezekiel 1) ;
now that phrase is said to her while she is still imprisoned ‘in the south’ ,
and perhaps the eyes “come to the cherubs themselves” after the land
will be restored in the North – perhaps as ‘security measure’ ..?
mentioned concepts in the gate
– the four cherubs :
see the first Ezekiel chapters ; their function is still not clear to us ;
– the seven Torches :
see the prophets chapter where they escape ‘Nineveh’ ,
and one of the first Isaiah chapters (‘the women that will be purified’) ,
their function is “to sustain aspects of creation” as “through their words” :
hence we restored the ‘lightnings and thunders’ by them under line 3
(they feature also in the Spells as ‘the 7 spirits’ – see pages ,
and in Rg-Veda they are “the seven singing doves”) ;
– the Revelation woman :
features in MANY prophets
(as well as in Spells – and appears in Rg-Veda) ;
corruptions : strategical unto grave
theme : context 100% restored and syntax >95% [but line 11 is Lost]
Revelation 4 (-as closing of 12)
fulltext :
1
after this , I look and behold ! , an open portal (‘eden-gate’) in heaven ,
and the first voice which I hear
is as if a trumpet is sounding towards me , saying :
come up here , and I will show you +
the eden portal that has come into being ;
2
and immediately I am within (eden-) gate
and behold ! , a throne is situated within the gate
which is the throne of God ; [restored verses sequence :]
6 [4 cherubs :]
and centered outward from the throne X X
are standing four living ones (‘cherubs’) round about God , O
as two standing in front and (two-) at the back ; X X
7
the (face of the-) first living one (‘cherub’) resembles a lion ,
(the face of-) the second living one an ox ,
(the face of-) the third living one a human
and (the face of-) the fourth living one an eagle ;
8
and each of the four living ones has six wings
that are full of eyes in their inner side ;
and they (‘cherubs’) do not rest day nor night ,
saying : holy , holy , holy is the Lord God Almighty ,
the one that was , and is , and will be ; [7 Torches :]
6a
then , in front of the throne is a sea like glass ,
and seven torches of fire are burning in front of the throne
which are the seven spirits of God ;
3
the colour of the sea + [3a: Ezekiel 1]
is like the appearance of amethyst stone ,
while a dome is round about the throne
has the appearance of emerald ; + [<< see Enoch]
5
and from the dome +
proceed lightnings and sounds of thunder ; [see intro]
4
and round about the gate + [<< surrounding the gate]
is the land of eden ,
b
while upon the gate +
I again see the virgin óf the land of eden standing ,
as being clothed with the sun
and having upon her head a crown of twelve stars ; [part III :]
9
then the voice says :
because after the virgin will have birthed
the sons of God (‘as 144’) will become the caretakers of her ,
they will rescue the virgin
out from the sea (‘matrix-dimension’) of the Beast : [see ‘wings’ Rev. 12]
10
they will make the virgin of the land of eden to ascend
so that she will stand upon the gate
which will (have been-) positioned in the wilderness , [north]
as the restored (eden-) gate of eden above the sea below ;
11
[too corrupted >> go to next chapter]
Revelation 4 [-continued of 12 above]
start : John shown the restored eden-gate (north of M-Babylon) :
1
after – this (‘the Beast realm’) ,
I look – and – behold ! , (an-) open – portal (‘eden-gate’) – in – [..] heaven ,
b
and – the – first – [..] voice – which – I hear
(is) as (-if) – (a-) trumpet – (is) speaks=sounding – [=towards] – me , saying :
c
come up – here , and – I (will) show – you – [..1x..] +
(the-) (eden-) must=portal (due=thure) – (that-) (will) come into being – [..1x..] ;
note :
… the differences in text are most Subtle : this can hardly be about “motion”
(that a door is opened through which John has to go”) while the gate itself
will be the restored one — since the whole chapter is about the gate ;
2
and – immediately – I am – within – (the-) (eden-) spirit=gate (pneuma=pylôn)
b
and – behold ! , (a-) throne – (is) situated – within – the – heaven=gate
c
and=which – on=is (epi=esti) – the – throne of – sat=God ;
note :
… the logical reasoning : ‘gate in heaven – throne in the gate’ ;
therefore we opted that “I am in the spirit” is a deflection
because he already héard the voice ;
[start of restored sequence :]
6
a [see below]
b
and – [..] – (centered-) midst=outward – (from-) the throne +
(are) (standing-) four – living ones (‘cherubs’) +
[..] round about – [..] throne=God (?) (thronos=theos) , [<< likely]
b
[+as] eyes=two – full=standing – in front – and – (two-) (at the-) back ;
7
[..] the – [..] (face of the-) first – living one (‘cherub’) – resembles – (a-) lion ,
[..] (the face of-) the – second – living one – [..] (an-) calf=ox ,
[..] (the face of-) the – third – living one – [..] (a-) human
and – (the face of-) the – fourth – living one – [..] (an-) eagle ;
8
and – [=each] [..] of – (the-) four – living ones – has – [..] six – wings [..]
b
(that-) and=are – full of – eyes – (in their-) inner side ;
c
and – they (‘cherubs’) have=do – not – rest – day – and=nor – night ,
d
saying : holy , holy , holy (is) – (the-) Lord – [..] God – [..] Almighty ,
the one – (that-) was , and – [..] is , and – [..] (will) come=be ;
[next : the 7 Torches :]
6a
[=then] , in front of – the – throne – (is) (a-) sea – like – glass ,
4b
and – seven – torches of – fire – (are) burning – in front of – the – throne
which – are – the – seven – spirits of – [..] God ;
3
[.] the – throne=colour of – the sitting=sea + [3a: Ezekiel 1]
is – like – (the-) appearance of – jasper=amethyst – [..1x..] – stone ,
b
[=while] – (a-) rainbow=dome – (is) round about – the – throne
like=having – the appearance of – emerald ; [<< see Enoch]
5
a
and – from – the – throne=dome (thronos=iris)
proceed – lightnings – and – [..] sounds (adj.) of – thunder ; [see intro]
note :
… see how 3a better matches ‘the sea of glass’ now ,
and b) : so described in Enoch (and see Spells pages here) ;
[now finally we are at ‘the dome over the throne’ as ‘the roof OF the gate’ :]
next : ‘the Revelation woman’ (no ’24 elders’) atop of the gate :
4
and – round about – the – throne=gate [‘surrounding the gate’]
throne=is (thronos=esti) – (the-) twenty=land of – four=eden ,
b
[=while] – upon – the – thrones=gate +
I (again) see – (the-) elders=virgin (adj.) (presbuteros=parthenos !) óf +
the – twenty=land of – four=eden – sitting=standing ,
c
[+as] (being) clothed – in=with – [..1x..] – (the-) white=sun (leukos=helios !)
d
and – having – upon – their=her – head – (a-) crown of – [+twelve] – golden=stars ;
part II
(some interaction we don’t understand)
(below : written befóre translation)
… as you see in KJV lines 9-10-11 some interaction is going on between
the ‘living ones’ and ‘the 24 elders’ – and you can bet that it is corrupt ;
a)
until now we only have 8 lines :
… what about if the theme is the sons ?
in 12 she birthed them – then here they must call her to the north ;
overt corruption in 9 and 10 :
— both 9 and 10 have “him that sat on the throne” = an excuse line ,
— 9 has “glory + honor + thanks” so we need to search a 3-fold term ;
next : the sons will call her to the north : (attested) :
9
[+then the voice says ] : [<< required ; Esau forgot while corrupting ?]
–
and=because – when=after – the – animals=virgin – (will have) give=birthed
b
the – glory=sons of – honor=God (‘as 144’) , [9a-b: see ch. 12]
c
[..] [+they] (will) sit=become +
(the-) thanksgiving=caretakers (note similarity !) of – the=her ;
d
on=and – [..] [+they] (will) live=rescue – the – throne=virgin (thronos=parthenos) +
e
into=out (-from) – the – ever=sea (‘matrix-dimension’) of – the – ever=Beast :
10 [10a-b: see 4b]
[+they] (will make) +
the – elders=virgin of – (the-) twenty=land of – [..] four=eden – to fall=ascend
b
before=so that – [..] [+she] (will) sat=stand – upon – the – throne=gate +
c
[now we need how the gate is ‘in the wilderness’, north of M-Babylon :]
and=which – worship=will – [+then] (be) live=positioned [‘line 2’] +
d
in – the – ever=wilderness ,
e
[+as] the – cast=restored – (eden-) ever=gate (see line 1) of – crown=eden
f
[..] before=above – the – throne=sea of – (the-) saying=below ; [<< juxta]
[END of core theme]
11 [impossible to can know]
… perhaps “and never will eden be endangered again” or similar ,
end >>>> the 666 chapter