december 6 – Ravine VIII
– Hebr. 4 : ‘David + Joshua + a certain day’ – as in 1 Kings 32 !
| … this theme is really something — please see the strange unreadable Hebrews 4 and ask you what is Paul [=Christ] trying to say there ? ; why would he make such a big theme of this “rest” if there was not something going on with this subject ? ; remember , ‘Noah’ belongs to the root “to rest” (part VI) which may be the description óf the day as the 8/15-th , while her attribute is ‘dedication’ — of the 144 ; |
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Hebrews 3 + 4 : you see that in Greek ‘Jesus’ and ‘Joshua’ share the same root ,
but considered the context the preference must be ‘Joshua’ ; below we also gave
an overview of chapter 3 to make sure that the context for chapter 4 is correct ;
please also see the few closing remarks at end :
Hebrews 3 :
(2-5) : about Moses [=the exodus] and Christ ;
(6) : therefore we [=Paul and his people] must hold fast until the end ;
(7-11) : yet old-Ishral had been stubborn , therefore “they will not enter into my rest” :
this is about the senior generation of old-Ishral not entering the promised land ;
(14) : but we [=Paul and his people] do believe and hold fast — note : repeat ;
(16) : yet “not all of old-Ishral was stubborn” (read : Joshua) , introduction to the 144 ? ,
because in this case the subject at the start of next chapter 3 will be ‘the 144′ ! ;
(17) : [corrupted] : must be : “with whom He is +NOT grieved with” ; the ’40 years’ is
a repeat from line 9 — so here it can be ‘2000 years’ (40 x 50) ? ;
(18-19 end) : [=corrupted] : must be “so they [=this group] WILL enter the rest”
and not ‘because of their unbelief’ but “because of their (right-) belief” ;
context so far : “if they do not listen they will not enter my rest” ;
START : Hebrews 4 :
(1)
“therefore – we (should) fear=pray – lest=for – the (being-) left=remnant (‘144’)
[+concerning] (the-) promise of
[+their] entering – into – His – [..] rest (‘compare : Noah’) ,
(1b)
(and that-) any – of – [=them] – (will be) mindful of – (the-) short=promise ;
above 1 :
… we saw that Paul often asked this from his brothers , ‘to pray for souls in the endtime’ ,
and in 1b it is more plausible “so that they will remember the promise” ;
(2)
“because [..] +
wé are=know – the message – as=through – (the-) them=Lord (kakeinos=kurios) , +
(2b)
[must be like “but they will only have the corrupted words of the scroll”
as Paul said elsewhere , see pages — compare here the ‘mixed faith’ in KJV]
(3)
“because=therefore – we=they (will) – the=not – believed=knów +
(about-) (the-) entering – into – the – rest , (of-) as=which – He said :
(3b)
[KJV : “As I have sworn in my wrath,”
but there is no such ‘swear’ H7650 -shba in any proper context]
(3c)
they (will) enter – into – [..] my – rest [3c: 18/5-th is “when Eden was finished’?]
+ [in – the – wrath=day] (? , from 3b ?)
and=as yet=when (?) – [+I] completed – the – works
from=as – the – foundation of – the – world (‘Eden’) ; [see also line 10]
above 3 :
… all we can do is attémpt to understand — IF the line is not (more-) corrupted :
can this theme be related to “the 14 missing days” , see previous log VII where we posed
that the matrix-gate (‘moon’) is “half a month early” because of stealing her from Eden ? ,
considered line 3 this theme indeed has a creational reason ;
(4) [4a: 1 kings 32 & 33 ?]
“because +
He spoke – somewhere (?) – concerning – [=that] – seventh=day (?) (hebdomas=hemerâ?)
(4b)
and=belonging to (?) – the – seventh – day – [=when] – [..] God – rested
from – all – his – works , +
above 4 :
… the line is altogether strange : “He rested on the 7th day yet there is another day” ? ;
the “spoke somewhere” is Vague — on purpose , to not make Esau the more wise ? ;
(5)
“and – in – this=thát – again=day – they (will) enter – into – [..] my [his] – rest ;
[new line :]
(6)
“therefore – since=the – remained=remnant (‘144’) – some=must – enter – therein
and=as – the – first=souls (?) (proteron=psuché) – (that) preached=searched (?)
not=and – (will have) entered=understood – because=that – unbelief=day ;
(7)
“(because-) again : he specified – (a-) certain – day +
(for-) (?) (the-) today=house (?) of – [..] David (‘eden-rule’) , [<< per 1 Kings 32 & 33 ?]
(7b)
saying : after=in – such=this – time , +
(7c)
[corrupt 11x ; repeat of that “if you hear his voice don’t harden your heart”]
(8)
[..1x..] – Joshua – (will) enter (ei+autous=eiselthein) – [+into] not=my – rest ; +
(8b)
KJV : “afterward have spoken of another day”
about=as – anóther – spoke=day – after – this=the – day=feasts (?) (hEmeras=heorté !?) ;
(9)
“consequently , (there-) (is) left – (a-) sabbath day (-of rest) [<< the 8/15 ?]
(to-) the – people=feasts (?) (laos=heorté) of – [..] God , +
(10)
“for=as – the (-one) – to enter – into – [..] his – rest ,
[+in] and=which – he=they (‘144’) – (will) rest – from – [..] him=their – works ,
just as – [..] God (did) – from – [..] his – own ;
(11)
“therefore – [=they] (will) make every effort – to enter – into – that – [..] rest ,
[unsure:]
[“lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.” [11b : per line 1 ?]
can be “[=but] – [=only] – [=if] – [..] [+they] same=first
(will be) falling=mindful of – the example=promise (hupodeigmati=eppagelias) [..] ” (?) ;
[end of section]
B) closing :
– line 10 , ‘sabbath day’ (‘day of rest’) :
was it then “pray that your escape will be in winter on the [=that] sabbath day”.. ? ;
whatever the phrasing was , this sabbath must have referred to the 8/15-th ;
– the restoration is an attempt ofcourse , keeping 1 Kings in mind — can it be that Esau
did gather what this chapter was about but that “he was Too Late by now to worsen his
corrupted 1 Kings 33″ ? ;
– it is such a very strange theme and the main question remains unanswered still :
why would God expect us to go find this date … ? ; or do we completely misunderstand ?
the problem isn’t so much “the searching for this theme” but more the why we need to
understand this ‘final day’ — almost apart from everything we have until now …
Sir you know of the nervous tummy this whole thing causes … we don’t let go of this
8/15 but judged by the sphere in the air things appear so incredibly un-promising …