Heb. 11 : (start of main theme)
after Eden fell Adam is alive ,
working for the demon-nations ;
Noah relocating to this earth
+ the symbology by Abraham
part II : the 144 discover eden ,
then demons will invade earth
[2021-apr.30]

 

[posted : first 3d]

 

 
searching the theme [-of this chapter]

… this chapter has been so  in-cre-di-bly  corrupted
that the first workable lines , as possible theme , appear only in 14 and 15 , sic ;

looking at previous chapter 10 (=though also corrupted , still) ,
it shows themes there as Christ’s journey to this earth , and about the endtimes ;
mentioning – but paraphrased –
that “the ones living in the endtime having bold belief will receive the promise” ,
and
that “their soul will live”  — while in this 11 the promise is ‘the promised eden land’ ;

 
buildup :

  • part I     : describing how the eden land in the other reality fell ,
    and how Adam is not dead : but he went working for the other side ,
    robbing the things of the eden land by them having entrance to her ,
    so that God had to put an end that impossible situation ;
    Noah :
    … he and his family will be saved – by relocating to this earth ;
  • part I b  :
    the new situation upon THIS EARTH :
    starting with Abraham who represents “the road back to eden”,
    because he symbolically inherits the – earthly – ‘promised land’ ;
    but
    Sarah will birth the symbolic heir who will obtain the promised eden land ;
  • part II   : 
    the chapter does not start again mentioning a host of forefathers = corrupt ;
    but instead ,
    proceeds with the 144,000 who will discover eden’s existence again ;
  • part II b :
    about Jacob (=as all the souls left behind) ,
    who will have to face the demon nations – of part I – invading this earth ;
  • part II c :
    about “the pastors who knéw about the right version – but rejected it”
    (a still very controversial theme which we saw it in OT as well in NT) ;
  • part II d
    closing : the two witnesses – as 144,000 – arrive

continued in next ch. 12

 
 
corruptions
one of the gravest , so far – 200% corrupted chapter
… because this is a whole new level :
the garbled Greek syntax :
.. like in Hebrew , depending whether the subject is active or passive ,
a line can be written forward , like “the woman said : I will give to you (etc)”,
while in serving role the text would be ,
“to them she-gave the woman (etc)” , for ús reading like “the woman gave to them (etc)” ;
as the solid type syntax in – for example – Paul’s letters to the Corinthians ;
yet
the Bizarre of this chapter is that also óur (‘modern’) type reading appears
as the direct “the woman gave to them (etc)”)  —     which is virtually impossible ! 
How can our type syntax as “our modern style language” be part of the text ?
worse :
both ‘styles’ are mingled within this chapter – and even within the same lines
(making it very tricky to see “who does whát” in the text) ,
yet it are the deeply corrupted sections which are written in our modern style !!

 
‘Hebrews’ as disputed book :
… the early Roman church did not accept it – and neither did Luther ,
but the version was only taken up in the first KJV
(see how late in Time ?
and how a non-Greek would have lined-up the original syntax in his own modern style ..?) ;
Luther rejected Hebrews
because he simply “did not trust the described themes” (yet he neither trusted Revelation) ;
but he did not see that – specifically Paul – had a message BEYOND what Christ had done ,
namely ‘to point to the other Reality’ ;
supposed ‘gnostic elements’
… this was the main reason the book Hebrews was not accepted in the canons ,
and – as far we see – even the reason of the rift between Paul and Peter :
Peter belonged to the house Judah , and was inclined to return to the prophets
(as the time when God still spoke) ,
while Paul , from the house Ishral , looked forward to “the return to (and of-) eden”,
saying in Corinthians “that he saw more than the other apostles – by God’s grace”,
referring ofcourse to the things he was shown concerning eden ;

 
conclusion
… these chapters are definitely Paulinian – if not by Paul himself :
the themes , the careful interlocking of the different sections ,
the almost – and rightful – obséssion to get the same important message across ;

but we agree that , hadn’t we understood the main theme in prophets ,
it would have been impossible to make Sense of this chapter :
only by knowing what to look for , the context of this chapter is 100% restored
 

 

 
Heb. 11 [-start of theme]

                                                                                                                   (the eden land in the other reality)
1
[=now] ,
(the-) (..true..) – belief – (..(will be) able..) – (..to support..) (=histémi) – (a-) matter ,        +
b
[+as] (a-) conviction – (..+which..) – (can be) observed – not=in – (..+the scriptures..) ;

2
because – [..] [=she] [=’prophets’] – gives evidence – [+about] the – seniors=olden times ,
3
(by-) (..which..) – we (can) comprehend         +
b
[+that] – [+in] (..+the other..) – world – (was) prepared – (the-) (..land..) – (of-) God ,
c
[+as] – (..the one [=’land’]..) – which – (does) not – appear [+to us] ,
d
[+for] – (it-) (has been) made – (of-) the=non – visible (-things) ;

4
[+but] – more=because of – (..the sin..) – Abel=Adam – (..committed..) ,
b
[..2x..] – [+he] offered up – [..] through=his – (..land..) ,
c
which – (was) (..made..) – [=by] – (..God..) – to=as – [..] him=his – gift – [..] (to-) God=him ;

                                                                                                                                                  (theme is now ‘Adam’) :

                                                                                                                                       [next : attested in prophets]
d
and=now , (..Adam..) – (did) her=nót – die – [+but] – he (is) – still – alive ;
5
[=yet] – [+he] changed sides – [=in] [-order] – (to-) not – experience – death ;

so far so good :
… next 2 lines are very tricky (=because totally corrupted) ,
but because “the nations of spirits” as demons returns as theme at end of chapter ,
it is very plausible that ‘they are shortly introduced’ here :
2.
… while we need a reason for Noah leaving eden (in line 7) :
 
b                                                                                                                   [next lines : w/ totally corrupt]
and=by       +
[..1x..] (..going..) – (to-) [=the] – (..nations..) – [..] (of-) – God=spirits [=’demons’]         +
c
for=as – [..] translation=working – (for-) him=them ,
d
[+by] – (..robbing..) (?) – (..the treasures..) (?) – (of-) the – (..land..) (?) ;      [+for them?]

6
yet=therefore – [..] (..he [=’Adam’] caused..) – (an-) impossible – (..situation..) ,
b
[..1x..]for=which – God – deemed necessary – [..] (..to end..) ,
c
[attempt :]
[=so that] – [..]          +
[+they] would – (..not..) – (..(have) entrance..) – and=to – [..] his (..land..) (-anymore) ;

                                                                                                                   [resuming less corrupted section :]
7
[=therefore] – [+he] warned       +
[-and instructed] – Noah – about – the – (..upcoming..) – (..change..) – (of-) (..the land..) ,
b
[+and] to prepare – (an-) ark – for – to save – his – family ;                       [next : whereto !]
c
by=because – [..] he (would) (..leave..) – [+his] world  [=’or : land] ,         +
d
and – become – (the-) inheritor – (of-) the=another one ,
e
[=which] (is) – [+our] – (..present..) – (..world..)  [=’or : land’] ;  

 

part I b                                                                                                                               (situation : this earth)
 

… you can understand how good it is to have proof of the introduction pages (index) ;
though all above is attested in prophets , the link with Noah is nót ,
therefore this chapter is very insightful concerning the relation of eden VS this earth ;
next :
… note how Abraham symbolically represents “us souls going back to eden” :

 

8
[+then] – (..God..) – called – Abraham – to go out – [+from] – (..his place..) [=’Ur’] ,       +
b
to – (a-) (..land..) – that – he would – receive – [=as] – (an-) inheritance ;
c
and – he went forth – [=but] – (having) no – idea – (to-) where – he (was) going ;     [sic]

                                                                                                                          [next : no ‘Isaac and Jacob’ here]
9
(by-) faith – he travelled – in=to – (the-) promised – [..] land ,                                    [<< see d]
b
as – (the-) foreign (-land) [=’sic’] – (..+where..) – he dwelt – in – (his-) tents ;
c
[+but] with=because – (..the land..) – [..] (..represented..) – (a-) (..týpe..) – inheritance ,
d
it – (was) (..+not..) – the – same – promised (-one) [=’eden land’] ;

10
[=therefore]         +
he (had to) wait – [=for] – (the-) (..heir..) – (who) (would) obtain – [+that] (..land..) ,
d
which (is) – (..the [eden-] land..) – created – [..] (by-) God ;

above :
… so Abraham inherited (line 8b) the promised earthly land ,
but out of him would be born a heir (Isaac , see next 11) who would be the symbolic heir
as obtaining the promised land – eden ;
but
the factual inheritance of the eden-land would start only 4000 years later  —
so this would explain “why Sarah got pregnant in old age”,
where she must represent “the later generations – as in our days” , see next 11 ;

11
[+and] – [=though] – Sarah – herself – (did) (..+nót..) – believe (-it) ,
b
for=through – (a-) miracle – [+she] received – (the-) conception – (of-) seed ;
c
even=and – (..it happened..) – [+in] [=her] – (.. older..) – age ,              [<< in time’]
d
because – believers – (will) (..+not..) – consider – the – promised one [=’eden’] ;

 
                                                                                                                   [12+13 : about the next 4000 years :]
12
[=for] – (..the generations..) – (..which..) – (..(will) come forth..) – from=after – one=them ,
b
and=as – [..2x..] – the multitude – like – the – stars – (of-) the – sky ,
c
[deleted]                                                                                                                        [<< superfluous / unknown]
13
(will) all – die – [=in] – faith – [+because] – [+they] (will) – nót – lay hold of – the – promise ;
b
but=because – [+they]        +
(will) (..+not..) – (have) (..understood..) (horáo=eidó) – (-about) (the-) far away – [=land] ,
c
and – (will) (..+nót..) – (have) acknowledged – (the-) (..existence..) (of-) [+it] ;
d
because – they (will) (..+nót..) be [=’feel’] – strangers – and – pilgrims – on – [=this] – land ;

                                                                                                                                  [=’like the position of Abraham’]

 

part II                                                                                                        but the 144,000 will :

 

below :
… a consistent notion in all of scripture
is “that the 144 will go search because their soul will be oppressed by this body”,
and that therefore they need to know what Gód has said (=in prophets) ;
this theme is the background of all of part II :

 
for=but – those=then – (..the ones..) – (will) appear [=’become’] ,
b
that=who – (will be) seeking – [+their] father (-land) ;                     [=’or : promised land’]
15
if=as – [..] (..the ones..) – that=who – (will) remember – where- they came – from ,
b
[+and] (will) have – (an-) opportunity – to retúrn – (to-) [=there] ;
                                                                                                                                                            
[next : reason :]
16
[=because] – [..] [+their] (..soul..) – (will) desire – [..] (..to have..) – (the-) heavenly one ,
b
[=since] – [+their] [-own] (..body..) – (will put) [=her] [=’soul’] – to shame ;
c
[w/very corrupt :]
God=as – them=their – (..body..) – [+which] (..(will) be..) – for=a burden – (to-) [=her] [..1x..] ;

 
17
[w/ very corrupt :]
[+because] – [+their] (..soul..) – (will be) tried – (..by him [=’body’]..) ,
b
and – (..they (will) search..) – (..if..) – (..she..) – (could) receive – (a-) – promise ;          +
18
[+as] – toward=anything – whom=which – (was) (..written..) – [..] in – (..the prophets..) ,
B
[+if] – [+they] (would) (..read..) – you=the – seed=scriptures ;

                                                                                                                                    [next : the understanding :]

19
that=and – [..] [+their] God=soul – (will be) able       +
b
to (..read..) – (..the words..) (logizomai=logos)[..] (-of-) (..God..) (nekros=theos) ,
c
whence=which – (had been) (..changed..) – [..] into – parables [=’mysterious sayings’] ;

20
by=for – [..] (..they (will have) discovered..)         +
b
[+that] – (..his..) – (..word..) – (..has been) corrupted..) – and=by – Esau ,
21
faith=because – (..the soul..) – (of-) the – sons – died – (to-) [+their] – Jacob=body ;
b
[=therefore]        +
[+she] (will) (..see..) – and – (..restore..) – [..] the – [..] [=true] – (..words..) – (of-) him ;

                                                                                                                              (next : what they will read)
22
[=then]
[..1x..] – [+they] (will) (..read..) – about – the – departure – (of-) the – sons – (of-) Ishral ,
b
[+when] – (..Christ..) (kai=christos) – (will) (..return..) – [=upon] – the – bones=clouds [..1x..] ;

23 [=and] – [+he] (will) (..bring..) – moses=them     +                              [+ in that third year ?]
b
by=to – their – [..] father (-land) ,                                                                          [<< likely , per 15 b]
c
because=and – (..God..) (asteios=theos) – (will) (..restore..) – [..] [+their] – (..soul..) ,
d
and=as – [..] (..re-creating..) [+her] – [+in] [..] [+her] – (..new..) (?)[..] (..body..) ;

24
[..2x..] – [+then] – [+they] – (will) become – (the-) (..glorious ones..) ,
b
[..1x..] – [+and] (will be) called :  (the-) sons – [+and] daughters – (of-) Pharaoh=God ;

 

 

part II b                                                                                    (they still read : now about Jacob)

 

… because the above “sons and daughters of God” is a kind of (positive-) culmination ,
it is very probable that now the second type people will be addressed ;
2.
… because of that same culmination , now the juxtaposition must turn negative ,
in the sense of “… but those who…” ;
note how Esau added the verb “to reject” in previous 24b – we’ll use that in 25 :

 
25
[w/ totally corrupt :]                                                                                                  [25 a : required notion]
[+but] – [+those]      +
[=who] – (will have) chosen=rejécted – (..the restored..) – [..] people=word – [..] (of-) God ,
B
than=will (be)– [+the people] – enjoying– (the-) temporary – (..body..) – [+as] (the-) sin ;

26
[w/ corrupt :]                                                                                        [24b + 25a : as opposed to the 144]
[+as] – (..the ones..) (?)[..] (having) supposed        +
b
than=that – [+their] (..body..) – (is) (..the) treasure – the=which – [..] (..God..) – (has) (..made..) ,
c
(..who..) – (will be) facing – (a-) – recompence [=’payback’]into=because of – [+that] ;

 

above 25 a :
… this theme is a constantly returning controversy : 
most souls do not even KNOW about the restored message ,
but that is because the ones (pastors etc) who did learn about it , refused to tell them ,
since they themselves had rejected it    –
and therefore they will be held guilty for having refused to tell them ;  (see other chapters)

                                                                              (next : the nations of demons arrive – as the penalty)

 

 
next : very corrupt :
.. used terms in this section : armies , sword , death, torture , strangers , etc ;
(2 may ’21 : indeed that pastors theme will show ; see next part II c)

27
[+because] – (..the people..) – left behind – (on-) egypt=earth         +
b
[..1x..] – (will be) terrified – (for-) the – wrath – (of-) the – (..nations..) [=’spirits’] ,
c
for=when – [+they] (will) see – (..the mighty..) (=fr.kratos) – (..spirits..) [=’or : demons’] ;

28
[+as] [+the ones] – (..who..) – (will) do – (..violence..) (?) (pascha=bia) – [+to them] ,
b
and – [..] (will) shed – [..] [+their] blood , [=as] [..] – slaying – the – (..people..) ,      +
c
[+when] – (..they (will) arrive..) (?) – (to-) them ;                                                 [<< comp. next 29]

29
(..because..) – they [=’spirits’] (will) cross over – (to-) (..this..) – (..earth..) ,
b
as – (..coming..) – dry=from – [+their] [-own] land ,                 [29+30 : attested in prophets]
c
which=and – (will) seize – (..her..) – [+in order] to devour – the – (..people..) ;
30
(..when..) – [+they] (will have) surrounded [=’besieged’] – the – walls – (of-) earth [..3x..] ;

 

part II c                                                                        (likely theme of section : today’s pastors)

 

next 31-33 : beyond corrupt :
… it’s almost impossible to see to where the narrative is heading now ;
only the term “peace” can be a clue (in 31) ,
which could be about “the pastors having said : peace – but there will be no peace” ;
2
context proof :
a) in above part II b wás already said that “the spirits will shed the blood of the people”
so there is not much reason to repeat that here  –
except when another (specified-) group is addressed ,
b) next part II d
will start anew with “the people”, even more implying that others are addressed here ;
c)  in prophets (but also in parables)
the 144 are several times placed against this specific group ;

 
                                                                                                    [31-33 c : context is attested in prophets]
31
(..then..) – (the-) prostituting – (..ministers..) – [..1x..] – (will) perish ,
b
[+as] the         +
disobedient ones – (who-) (..told..) – the – spies=people :  (..there (will) be..) – peace ! ;         
32
and=for – [=they] [=’ministers’] (will) – [=not] – (..(have) accepted..) – (..the message..) ,      +
b
[+as] (the-) account – the – (..sons..) – gave         +                      [..+ 11 x corrupt , as ‘names’]
about – and=what – the – prophets – (..(have) said..) (?) ;

                                                                                                                                              [next : their grave sin :]
33
[+but] who – (..neither..) (?) – (..told..) (?) – [to-] (..the péople..)         +
b
(how-) to work – righteousness – [+in order to] obtain – (the-) promise ;        [<< part I]
c
[+therefore] , (..the ministers..) – (who-) (kept) – [+their] mouth – shut ,       +          [<< ?]

 

next 34 a , the penalty :
… we cannot be 100% sure just how this section will end  —
the “something ominous will happen to them” is is a most dangerous theme for us (-hR)
(see other chapters) ;
possibilities :
a) a mere ‘simple’ description like “therefore they will die with the people” ;
but 
b) scripture often uses “a counter-type penalty , including similar aspects”
(compare the warning in Revelation , “..who will remove words , …”) ;
and because in 33 c is said “they kept their mouth shut”                                        [<< if true]
this 34 a can have said
for example “..therefore Sheol will open her mouth for them”
first because in prophets is said “they will be swallowed up”,
while here the 5th word of line 34 a is again ‘mouth’ (=but in KJV as ‘edge (of sword)’ ;

34 a (options) :
[+therefore] , (..the ministers..) – (who-) (kept) – [+their] mouth – shut ,       +       [<< ?]
A)
[..1x..] (will) (..+not..) – ability=be able – to escape – (..the edge ?..) – (of the-) sword ;  
B)
      (will) (..not..) – (..escape..) – (the-) fire ,
      [+when] (the-) mouth – (of-) (..Sheol..) (machaira=geenna?) – (will) (..swallow..) [+them] ;
C) 
      (will be) (..cast..) – [=in] – (the-) fire ,
      [+when] – (..Sheol..) – (..(will) open..) – [+her] mouth ;
D)
      any other combination ;

 

 
part II d                       closing                                      (the 144,000 – as witnesses – will appear)

 

next :
… following the main scenario in prophets and Paul ,
next can be “that the people don’t have hope no more”   —
while in 35 below the words “waiting” and “redemption” show up :

34 d
[+then] – (..the people..) – [..] (will have) become – weakened        +
C
[+because of] – (the-) mighty ones – in – battle , [+as] (the-) army – [..] (of-) foreigners ;

35
[..1x..] [+and] – [+their] women=soul (guné=psychê)          +                               [35 : attested]
B
(will have) – by=no – (..hope..) (nastasis=elpis)[..] (for-) dead=God (nekros=theos) [=anymore] ,
c
[..] and=as – [..1x..] – not – waiting – [..] (for-) [+their] redemption ,         +
d
that – [..1x..] – they might obtain – (..salvation..) (nastasis=sôtêria) ;

                                                                                                                                                      [the 144 appear :]
36
[=but] [+then] – (the-) different ones , [+as] [+their] – (..sons..) – and – (..daughters..) ,      
b
(will) (..come..) – [+from] (..beyond..) (peira=peran)          +
c
yea=to – [..] (..their..) – imprisoned – (..people..) ;         +                                                
[goto 38]

  

37
[deleted]
 
[=’wholly corrupt : “trial” shows , like in 36 (corrupt root there) ;
the “to wander” shows , like in 38 ; ‘stoned + sawn’ = corrupt ;
while “destitute + afflicted + tormented” belongs to next 38 ;
conclusion : an invented line to bury the running theme
(‘skins’ cóuld be the ‘sackcloth’ theme – but unusable here)’]

38
[=and] – who [=’144’] – (will) be – (..walking through..) – the world ,        +
b
(..visiting..) (planaó=episkeptomai) – [+their] [-own] (..people..) ,                    [<< as Jacob]
c
and=as – the destitute – and – oppressed – and – tormented ones [=’fr.37’][..] (on-) earth ;

 
                                                                                                                                                                         [closing :]
39
and – these – (..glorified ones..) – (will) [bear-] witness – [+to them [=’people’] ,
b
not=as – (..these..) [=’144’] – (who-) (have) received – the – promise ,         +
40
[..] (..which..) (is) – (the-) (..heavenly..) – (..body..) – for – [=them] ;            [40 : see ch.12]
b
that – us=they [=’tired souls’] – (will be made) [..1x..]without=the sáme – perfect .

 

 

theme continues in next chapter 12

 

[02.05may.2021    —     submitted and completed  — first version and definitive]