Heb.12 (closing of theme)
the 144 witness to Jacob ;
the ‘birthright’ problem
led up to the Tribulation ,
because of what Esau did
[2021-may.04]

 

[4 may – posted : part I]

 

                                                                                            (situation : the 144 arrive to their people)

next line 1 :
… because these chapters are very consistent with the same theme in 2 Cor ,
we would need “the tired souls who lost hope” mentioned here ,
and an indication of that intention is the remained “patience” in KJV ;

1                                                                                                       [direct continued from chapter 11 :]
[w/ very corrupt :]
[=then] – [..2x..]           +
(the-) witnesses – [..3x..] – (will) have=be – [=with] – every=their – (..people..) ,
b
and=as – the – (..souls..) [=’people’] – (..having..) – (..no..) – (..hope..) [-anymore] ,
c
[+and] (do) – (..+not..) – (..expect..) – the=that – (..God..) – (..(will) save..) – us=them ; 

2
[w/ very corrupt :]
to=but         +
[+they] (will) see (=horaó) – the – [..] perfect – (..body..) – (of-) the – (..witnesses..) ,
b
whose – (..soul..) (?) [..] (..dwells..) (?) him=in – (the-) joy=glorious ones ;
c
[..3x..]                                                                                                                          [2 : attested in prophets]
in=and         +
[+they] (will) seated=recognize – [=their] [-own][..] (..sons..) – [=and] (..daughters..) ;

3
[..] consider=saying – [..] (to-) [+their] (..people..) [=’as Jacob’] ,                 [3 : comp. 2 Cor]
b
such=who – endure – [..2x..]sinners=hardship – [=and] – [..] (..toil..) ,
c
that=as – [..] (the-) weary – [=and] – tired – [..] souls :            +

                                                                                                                                                           (the 144 speak) 

4                                                                                                                                       [juxtaposition buildup :]
[w/ totally corrupt :]
[=we] (..stand..) (=kathistémi) – (..among..) – (..you..)         +
b
[+as] the (-ones) – (having) [-already] contended against – sin [=’sin = this type body’] ;

5
and=for – [=we] (..needed..) – [..] (..to know..)         +                                   [5a+b : adap.7 may]
b
which=what – [..2x..] – (..God..) – (would) say – [+about] (the-) son=soul      +
c
[..] me=who – (could) – not – (..bear..) [-anymore] – [+her] (..sin..) – [+as] [+this] (..body..) ,
d
nor=and – (was) fainting – by=because of – [=his] – (..fury..) (?) ;

6
for=because        +
(..our soul..) – (did) (..+not..) – love – [+this] (..body..) – (..+which..) – chastened [+her] ,
b
[=but] – (..desired..) – to receive – (the-) (..heavenly..) – (..body..) ;

7
[+yet] if=by – enduring – (the-) chastening ,
b
[..] the – (..soul..) – (..would..) – [..] (..search..) – (..the scriptures..) ,
c
[..] for=as – [..] (the-) sons – who – [..] (..understood..) – (..+the words of..) – (the-) Father ;

 
                                                                                                                                          [next : juxtaposition :]

8
[..] if=but – [+your] (..soul..) – (..would..) (..+nót..) – (..search..) [+them] [=’scriptures’] ,
b
[=since]         +
[+she] (did) (..+not..) – (..desire..) – (..to understand..) – [+his] (..words..) (pas=logos) ;
c
then=therefore – you (have) – bastards=nót – become – [..] not=his – sons ;

 
9
[=because] – [..] indeed – us=your – flesh=soul – (..loved..) – [+her] (..body..) ,
b
[+and] – (did) (..+not..) – (..want..) – [+her] (..flesh..) – (to be) chastened ;
c
not=therefore         +
rather=her – [..] (..body..) – (would be) subjected – (to-) the – (..nations..) – [..] (of-) spirits ;
d
and=as – (being) (..chastened..) – [+by thém] ;                                [9 : see 2 Cor chapters]

                                                                                                                                 [10 : buildup corruption :]
next 10 :
… 10 A has the same buildup as line 11 A   (=impossible , cause no juxtaposition here) ,
so Esau lost where he was and fumbled his way out of it   —
it is reasonable that in this 10 “them spirits are judged” , as closing of part I :     
2.
… while in prophets often shows the type concept as
“after the spirits did their evil job , they themselves will be punished” ;

10
for=but – [..] the – (..nations..) – [..] (of-) (..spirits..) – [..] (..which..) – chastened – [=you]  +
b
[..2x..] (will be) (..destroyed..) – (..themselves..) ,
c
into=when – [..] [+you] (will) (..receive..) – the – [=glorious one] [=’body’] – (for-) [=you] ;   

 

part I c                                      the ‘birthright’ problem – leading up to the Tribulation

 

next 11-12 : the ‘peace’ :
… a consistant theme in prophets , describing a notion
as “Christ will save all believers when this earth will go Dark” ;
but prophets call that “peace”  — distinguished from “the taking away of the 144” ;                                                                      

11
[w/ totally corrupt :]
[=now] ,
[..] [..] the – present – chastisement – [..3x..] – is – [..1x..] – sorrowful ,
b
[+for] – (..[there-] was..) – (..+never..) – (..a promise..) – (of-) peace ,        +
c
[+but] – (it-) (was) yields=teached – (to-) (..you..) – [+as] – (the-) (..lie..) (pseudos)[..1x..] ;
12
[w/ totally corrupt :]
[=because] – the – (..scriptures..) [=’prophets’] – (had been) (..corrupted..) ,
b
and=as – the – (..false..) (paraluó=pseudês) – (..sayings..) – (of-) (..God..) (anorthoó=theos) ;

 
                                                                                                                           [next : the reason + perpetrator :]
 
13                                                                                                       [13+14 : restored per prophets context]
[13-14 :w/ totally corrupt :]
a
and – [..1x..] – (it-) (was) done – (to-) (..you..) – the=by – (..Esau..) (pous=êsau) ,
b
[+so] that – [+your] (..soul..)        +

(would) (..+not..) – turned=search – [=your] – (..heavenly..) – (+body..) (iaomai=sôma) ;

14
[+but] (diókó=de) – (would) (..forgét..) – with=about – [..] the – holiness=glorious one ,
b
which – (..was..) (chóris=esti) – (..created..) – [+for] (..her..) – [..] (by-) (..God..) ;

                                                                                                                                 [next 15+16 : Esau’s situation :]

below 15-16 :
…because above is “the glorious body made by God”
now shóuld follow “the stolen body for Esau which was NOT made by God” ;
2. context of 15-16 :
… the restored main theme is attested in prophets , but we had to make an attempt : 

15
[15-16 : w/ totally corrupt :]                                                                   [15+16 : contextual restoration]
a
lest=so that – (..he [=’Esau’] (would) receive..) – [..] [+his] (..body..)        +

of=which – (was) the=nót – grace=created – [..] (by-) God ;
b
lest=but – any=as – (the-) bitter – (..spiritual one..) (?)             +

up=which – (..Adam..) – (..devised..) (?) – [+for him] ,
c
by means of – (..having..) – defiled – the – many=glorious ones [=’our Originals’] ;      +   
 
16
[=by] – [=whom] – (..he [=’Adam’]..) made..)       +
b
(the-) – obscene – (..body..) (é=sôma)as=for – (..+the souls..) – (of-) Esau ,
c
who – sold=received – [..] his – firstborn-right – for=from – meat=Adam ;

 

above :
a) Adam :
… he MUST show here , because he will be the subject in next line 17
(and it’s not a stretch to mention him here – because of previous chapter 11) ;
b) the firstborn-right :
… in Genesis is is never explained why Esau had the birthright – neither what that IS ;
that Jacob ‘stole it back’ means that the birthright belonged to the souls of God
(where Esau represents the corrupt adam-soul) ,
and – now restored – here is plainly said : he got it from Adam   —
for the ‘birthright’ see also 1 Cor. 15 page ;

 

part II                                                             the firstborn-right explained

 

[note : where we used ‘(evil-) spirits’
it may have written ‘demons’ , as to not confuse with the term Spirit ;
see for example line 18 where ‘mountain’ (-oros) as remained root of (-daimón) ;]

                                                                                                                                     [17+18 : attested in prophets]
17
[17-19a : w/ totally corrupt :]
a
[=now] , you (must) understand – that – [..] after – (..the fall..) – (of-) (..paradise..) ,
b
the – blessing=glorious ones [=’our Original + our soul within them’]        +

(..+who..) – (had become) rejected=afraid – (of-) (..God..) (metanoia=theos)
c
found=went – (to-) the – place – [+where] – (..he [=’Adam’] dwelt..) ,                  [<< Is. 14 etc]
d
though=which – (..was..) (meta=asti) – (at the-) (..nations..) – (of-) (..spirits..) ;

18
for=but – not=when – [=they] [=’our Originals’] (had) arrived – [+there] ,
b
[+he] (..handed [+them] over..) (psélaphaó=paradidômi) – (to the-) mountain=spirits ,

and=who – burned [-things off from] [+them] – (in the-) fire ;                                            

                                                                                                                                                            [next : our attempt]
c
[w/ totally corrupt :]                                                                       [c-19a : context attested in prophets]

[=then] – (..our soul..) (gnophos=psychê)[..] (..went forth..) – [out-] and=from – (..them..) ,

and – (..she (was) – placed..) (?)        +
19 a
and=in – [+this] (..body..) (?) (salpigx=sôma) – (on/of-) (..earth..) (?) (échos=gê) ;       +

 
                                                                                                                          [next b-c-d : context also attested]
b
and=while – [+from] (..the residue..) (phóné=kataloipos) – (of the-) (..glorious ones..) ,       +
c
[..] – (..Adam..) – (..devised..) – [..1x..] – (the-) (..obscene..) [=’16a’] – (..bodies..) (mé=sôma)  +
d
[+for] (..Esau..) (autos=êsau) – [+and] (the-) (..spirits..) ;                       [Esau + spirits : see next]

above b-c-d :
… the Originals were not ‘burned completely’ but “had aspects burned off from them”,
the latter as “the residu” which Isaiah mentions
(while in Rg-Veda , after the ritual a spirit says to an Original “well you’re not déad” ; see page) ;
above c-19a :
… appears in several prophets “as a result of that burning” ;
we considered it belongs here not only per context
but also because last part of this chapter will return upon this theme ;

                                                                                                                   [next : closing of Esau + spirits theme :]

20                                                                                                                                 [20-21 : attested in prophets]
[20-21 : w/ totally corrupt ; now restored :]
a
for=therefore – not=Esau – (was) ordered – bear=to go corrupt – (..+the scriptures..) ,
b
[+so that] – (the-) beast=matter – (would) if-ever=never – (be) touch=discóvered [+by us] ;
c
[likely , 6x :]
[+for] [+if] – the – mountain=spirits [=’18b’] – (would be) (..found out..) ,
d
or=then – [+they] (would be) (..destroyed..) – (by-) (..God..) (bolis=theos) ;

 
21
and=but – so=now – [+they] (will) be – (..destroyed..) , [..] (..together with..) – Moses=Esau ,
b
[+and]  [+they] am=will – (be) terrified           +

and – tremble of fear – [+for] [+his] [=God’s] (..judgment..) ;

 

part II b                   all of Jacob saved  –  and brought to the promised eden land