[context : virtually 100% restored]
last minute adaption : line 9 ; see there
 

Rev. 10  (KJV 12)
– intermezzo –
the woman and the dragon :
how eden rules again
after Mystery-Babylon fell

[2021-08.aug.06/07]

 

the woman [-representing all adm-souls on earth]

VS

the dragon [–representing the evil nature of Mystery-Babylon’s realm]
 
 

the woman :
as “all the to-be saved adm-souls on earth”                (also termed ‘house Jacob’)
here , “she as ‘banner’, as concept , representing all the souls” ;
the stars :
as the 12 tribes of old-Ishral   (from where originate all the to-be saved souls)
the sun [-and earth] :
indicating “the region between earth and Heaven                 (cq ‘this solarplane’) ,
the woman is under the sphere of influence of the sun               (cq ‘M-Babylon’)     

     

1.
then a great sign appears in space :
a woman , clothed with the sun ,                                      [<< in sphere of influence of this sun]
and the land [=earth] under her feet ,                                                     [<< shows ‘a positioning’]
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars ;
2.
and she , about to have a child [=the 144,000] , is crying out ,
travailing and being in pain for to bring forth ;
                                                   [next : the evil nature of the region Mystery-Babylon appears :]
3.
then another sign appears in space [=heaven] ,
for behold ! ,                                                                               [next : looking similar like The Beast !]
a great red dragon ,
having seven heads and ten horns , and seven (?) crowns upon his heads (?) ;
4.       
[totally unsure – but possible ; see Greek text :]                  [4a : needs ‘a positioning’ ! :]
a.
and his abode is the sun whose light rules the land [=earth] ;
4b.
and the dragon stands before the woman being about to bring forth ,
for to devour her child [=’144’] as soon it would be born ;
                                                                           [the 144 taken from earth – and brought to eden :]
5.
then she brings forth a man child [=’the 144,000’] ,
who is about to rule all the nations [=’of spirits’ !!!] with an iron rod ;
and her child is snatched up to God ,
as the ones who are brought to their (-own) land [=eden]  ;
                                                                             [the 144 will restore eden : attested in prophets :]
6.
because they [=144] will restore their (-own) habitat     +
which became a desolation ;
as preparing the place for their people [=Jacob] ,        [KJV 6 is as KJV 14 = corrupted]
     6d. : [absolutely unsure : see Greek section]
                                                                                       [7: but first the evil region must be defeated :]
7.
then a war starts in heaven :
Michael and his angels        +                                     [<< or “the members of the manchild” ?]
fight against the land of the dragon ,
and the dragon and his angels fight back ;                  [‘144 war M-Babylon’ , in prophets]
8.
but the latter do not prevail , and can not defend their region in heaven any longer ;
9.
[=then] the great dragon ,
which had built the ancient region + as the throne (?) for the Beast (?) ,
the one [=region] having deceived the whole inhabited world [=earth] ,
was cast out from his land ,                                                                       [<< ‘Chaldea’ in prophets]
and his angels were cast out with him ;
                                                                                          [part I b : [new-] eden’s rule officially starts :]
10.
and I hear a loud voice saying in heaven :
now has started the powerful reign of the kingdom of our God ,
as the land [=eden] for His people [=Jacob] ;
because the region of the dragon has fallen ,
which [=region] had imprisoned (?) them [=Jacob] before our God day and night ;
11.
but these [=144] have conquered it [=region] because of the blood of the Lamb ,
through understanding the word of their God ,                                                [<< in prophets]
because they did not love their own life [=’Self’] until death ;
12.
therefore rejoice , O Heaven [=real Heaven] ,
and the ones dwelling in it ;
but woe ! to the inhabitants of the land [=earth] ,
because the enemy will descend to them ,                                                                    [7 trumpets]
having great wrath , being aware that he has little time (-left) ;
                                                                                       [part I c : the woman is brought to new eden :]
13.
because when the dragon will see that he lost his land ,
he will persecute the woman who brought forth the man (-child) ;
14.
but two wings of a great eagle are given to the woman ,
so that she may fly to the wilderness
as her new place ;                                                    [new eden , now north of Mystery-Babylon]
14d.

where her (?) children (?) will also dwell (?)                [14d. : attempt , see Greek text]
after they will be saved (?)
from the surface of the world [=earth] ;

15.
therefore the dragon casts out of his mouth
water as a flood after the woman ,                                                    [<< his dimension after her]
so that he would cause her to be carried off by the flood ;
16.

[unsure – but we interpreted (and see Greek text) this :]
a.
but the sea [=south-dimension?] helped the woman out ,
because the abyss [=idem] opened her mouth [=as gate?] ,
and swallowed up the flood which the dragon has cast out of his mouth ;

17.
and the dragon was wroth with the woman ,
and (-therefore) went to make war
with the rest of her children ,                                                                          [<< souls on earth still]
who keep the instructions of God
and have the testimony of Jesus Christ .
 

 

1
[=then] – (a-) great – sign – appears – in – [..] space [=’heaven’] :
b
(a-) woman , clothed – (with the-) sun ,         +
c
and – the – moon=land [=’this earth’] (seléné=gê) – under – her – [..] feet ,
d
and – upon – her – [..] head – (a-) crown – (of-) twelve – stars ;

above 1 :
… see description in top of page ;
though usually ‘the moon’ is the counterpart of ‘the sun’ , it’s not in this case  —
much more logical is “this earth” since Jacob lives upon it ;
 
2
and – she , (about to-) have – (a-) (..child..) [=’the 144,000’] , (is) crying out ,
b
travailing – and – (being in-) pain – (for-) to bring forth ;

 
above 2 :
… that concordances think that the child is Christ , or ‘the church’, etc ,
is because they have not understood the (144-) sons concept , in prophets :
see the Attribute of the 144 in line 5 below ;
 
                                             next : the evil nature of the region Mystery-Babylon appears :
3
[=then] – another – sign – appears – in – [..] space [=’heaven’] ,
b
[=for] – behold ! ,                                         [next : looking almost similar like ‘The Beast’ !]
c
(a-) great – red – dragon ,                       
d
having – seven – heads , and – ten – horns ,
e
and – seven [=’ten?’] – crowns – upon – [..] his – heads [=’horns?’] ;

 
above 3 :
… we do not know if Esau messed with the description here ,
but it is important to remember ‘the Beast’ as “Mystery-Babylon region” in ch. 5 (KJV 13) ,
where the Dragon empowered the Beast (=that region) ;
considered the rest of this chapter ,
the theme indeed must be “the evil nature (óf that region)” ;
 
4
[totally unsure , but we opted that ‘the sun’ from 1b could return here ..? :]
a
and – his – [..] tail=abode (?) (oura=monê)
b 
drags=is (?) (suró=esti)[..] third=in (?) – the – stars=sun (?) (astér=hélios)
c
of=whose – heaven=light – [..] [..] cast= rules – [..] the – land [=’earth’] ;
(to=hos) (ouranos=phengos) (balló=archô)

 
above 4 :
… we made the above attempt for the following reasons :

  • a) like the woman , the dragon would need ‘a positioning’ ,
  • b) because ‘the sun’ was mentioned in 1b
    that theme could/should return here (scripture is written cohesively) ;
  • c) we opted
    that “the light of the sun” creates a link to this earth (negative though) ,
    and makes “the dragon to stand before the woman” – in next line ;
  • d) the ‘in’ :
    perhaps that would be a bit over the top ;

 
4c
and – the – dragon – stands – before – the – woman – (being) about – to bring forth ,
d
for – to devour – [..] her – child [=’the 144’] – as soon – (it would be) born ;

 
                                                                               the 144 taken from earth – and brought to eden :
5
[=then] – she brings forth – (a-) man child [=’the 144,000’] ,
b
who – is about – to rule – all – the – nations [=’of spirits !!’] – with – (an-) iron – rod ;
c
and – [..] her – child – (is) snatched up (harpázô) – to – God ,
d
and=as – the (-ones) – (who-) – (..+(are) brought..) – [..] (to-) him=their (-own) – throne=land ;

 
above 5 :
… the ‘man child’ is brought forth fróm the family of adm-souls (the woman) ;
we made 5-d as “the ones…” to not complicate the reading ;
2.
the ‘iron rod’ in 5b :
… as attested in prophets – and see how this will turn out in line 7 below ;

 

 

                                                                                                                                the 144 will restore eden
                                                                                                                           [6b-d : attested in prophets]
6
and=because – [+they] [=’144’] (will) fled=restore – [+their] (-own) woman=habitat         +
b
(which-) – into=became (eis=esti) – (a-) – desolation ,
c
where=as – [..1x..] – preparing – (the-) place – for – [..] [+their] – God=people [=’Jacob’] ;
d
[absolutely unsure (but 2 is preferable) :]

1. that=when – [..1x..] – they [=’Jacob’] (will be) feed=saved – her=after – 1260 – days ;
2. because – there – they (will) feed=dwell – her=after– (the-) day – (..they (are) saved..) ;

 
above 6 :
… the problem is that KJV 6 (this one) and KJV 14 virtually have the same theme ,
which is impossible , ofcourse ;
2.
the tricky ‘1260’ :
… we just don’t know – perhaps it was there , perhaps it wasn’t ;
we are very careful to adhere “a 7 year period for all the events” ,
since we cannot discover 100% contextual proof of such a timeframe ;
therefore , to play safe , we like better option 2 ;
 
                                                                                         [the 144 will restore eden : attested in prophets :]
6.
because they [=144] will restore their (-own) habitat     +
which became a desolation ;
as preparing the place for their people [=Jacob] ,           [KJV 6 is as KJV 14 = corrupted]
       6d. : [absolutely unsure : see Greek section]
 

 
                                                                                   … but first the evil region must be defeated :
7
[=then] – (a-) war – starts – in – [..] heaven :
b
Michael – and – [..] his – angels    +                       [<< or “the members of the manchild” ?
c                                                                                                do compare ‘the rod of iron’ , previously]
fight – against – the – (..+land..) – (of the-) dragon ,
d
and – the – dragon – and – [..] his – angels – fight (-back) ;
8
[=but] – (the latter do) not – prevail ,
b
[lineup :]

[+and] – (can) not – (..defend..) – (..their..) – region – in – [..] heaven – any longer ;

 
                                                                                          the region – as Mystery Babylon – falls :
9
[=then] – the – great – dragon ,       +
b
(which-) (had) cast=built – the – ancient – serpent=region (ophis=topos)
c
[unsure :]

[+as]          +
the – [..1x..] – adversary=throne (?) (diabolos=thronos) – [=for] – the – satan=Beast (?) ,
d
the (-one)
[=’region’] – (having) deceived – (the-) whole – inhabited world [=’earth’] ,
e
(was) cast – into=out (-from) – [..] [+his] land ,                         [<< ‘Chaldea’ in prophets]
e
and – [..] his – angels – (were) cast (-out) – with – him ;

 
above 9 :
line a-b-c KJV : the “dragon – serpent – satan – devil” :
… actually a red flag , reading that many names ;
the mentioning of M-Babylon :
… very likely to make clear that “the Babylon which the traders weep about”
is NOT ‘this earth’ but the region inbetween earth and Heaven ;
2.
the “cast out” :
… the problem is a bit that in prophets “all spirits in Mystery-Babylon will die”
(during the 144 besiege her) ,
but probably the text refers to “the demons invading earth”
after their region has fallen :
compare the end of this chapter – and next chapter “the trumpets” ;

 

part I b                                                                          (new-) eden’s rule officially starts :
 
10
and – I hear – (a-) loud – voice – saying – in – [..] heaven :
b
now – (has) started – the – [..] powerful [=’adj.]salvation=reign           +
c
[..] (of-) the – kingdom – [..] (of-) our – God ,
d
[=as] – the – power=land [=’eden’][..] (for-) His – anointed=people [=’Jacob’] ;
e
because        +

the – brethren=region (adelphos=topos)[..] (of-) the – accuser=dragon – (has) (..fallen..) ,
f
the=which [=’region’] – (had) accused=imprisoned (?) – them [=’Jacob’]          +
g
before – [..] our – God – day – and – night ;

 
above 10 :
… Esau portrayed it as if “Satan is thrown out of Heaven”
by creating the “accuser of the brethren” theme ;
but the whole point is that Mystery-Babylon has fallen – and eden will rule again ;
line f : ‘imprisoned’ :
… we opted it needs something much stronger as merely “deceived” (in line 9) ;

 

 
11
[=but] – these [=’144’]       +
b
(have) conquered – it [=’dragon region’] – because of – the – blood – (of-) the – Lamb ,
c
and=through – by=understanding – the – word – [..] (of-) their – testimony=God
d                                                                                                                                            (marturia=theos) ,
and=because – they (did) – not – love – their (-own) – (..life..) [=’Self’] – unto – death ;

 
above 11 :
… only by the blood of the Lamb souls are saved ,
and saved souls are able to understand prophets (this is also in Parables – see page) ;
but even saved souls aren’t able to – if they didn’t die to ego ;
2.
line c : it indeed should be “understanding the words of God”,
since (in prophets) He explains what is going on IN the other reality ;
therefore ‘the word of their testimony’ is far too weak
(and is a strange phrase : usually it is “hold on (to a testimony)” etc) ;

 
12
therefore – [..] rejoice , (..O..) – Heaven [=’real Heaven’] ,
b
and – the (-ones) – dwelling – in – it ;
c
[+but] woe ! – (to-) the – inhabitants – (of-) the – land [=’earth’] , [..3x..]
d
that=because – the – enemy – (will) descend – to – [=them] ,
e
having – great – wrath ,                                                [d-f : the seven trumpets]
f
(being) aware – that – he has – little – time (-left) ;

 
part I c                                       likely : the woman brought to new eden [-in the north]
 
this section :
… is indeed tricky ;
the woman as “the banner of the family of adm-souls” can not stay upon earth
but is brought to eden – since all the saved souls will go to there ;
in previous 12 was said “descended” so now we must need ‘ascended’, see next :
2.
new eden : in the north :
… eden will be restored as north of the region Mystery-Babylon ,
and this north is consistently termed “wilderness” in prophets (and see line 14) ;
3.
the ‘flood’ :
… apparently “the evil dimension of the dragon”, since his mouth spews it ,
but that “cannot reach the woman – because she is now in the north” ;
however the problem is line 14 still ;

 

13
[=because] – when – the – dragon – (will) see – that – he cast=lost – [=his] – land ,
b
he (will) persecute – the – woman – who – brought forth – the – man (-child) ;

 
14
[=but] – two – wings – (of-) (a-) – great – eagle – (are) given – (to-) the – woman ,
b
so that – she (may) fly – to – the – wilderness       +
c
into=as – [..] her – (new-) place ;                          [b-c : new eden , north of M-Babylon]

 
below 14 d : likely corrupted :
… why say “she will be nourished (=protected?) from the serpent”
and then in 15 say “(but anyway) the serpent sends a flood after her”…?
then ,
the theme is now “new place” – wouldn’t that need some link with line 6
where the 144 will restore that place ?
(strange : both in 6 and this 14 is a “times and times” phrase + “nourish”) ;
link with Zechariah :
… inthere “a woman called iniquity is carried to the (false-) east by two women
having storch (?) wings” ; the iniquity-woman may be the antagonist of this woman ,
but we need to search that out ;
the below attempt :
… somehow it makes sense “that the souls will follow her” (as ‘her children’) ;
we don’t care so much that the “times and half a time” fell away now
because that is vague , anyway – while ‘a timeframe’ still exists in this attempt :
the réason for the anger :
… also makes more sense now  —
the dragon wanted to OWN the souls , through owning their ‘banner’ ;
 
14d
[likely correct attempt :]                                                        [14d : ‘children’ : compare line 17]
d
where – and=her (?)time=children (?) – (will) there=also – nourish=dwell , [..1x..]
e
and=after – [+they] (will be) half=saved (?) (hémisus=sôteriâ)
f
[..1x..] – from – (the-) surface – (of-) the – serpent=world [=’earth’] (?) (ophis=kosmos) ;

 
15
and=therefore – the – (..dragon..) – casts – out – [..] (of-) his – mouth       +
b
water – as – (a-) flood – after – the – woman ,                  [<< his dimension after her]
c
so that – he (would) cause – her – (to be) carried off by the flood ;

 
below 16 :
… very unsure – first because we don’t understand what was intended ,
option of meaning :
… remember the Pepsi-logo
where the north realm is ‘Behemoth’ and the south one ‘Leviathan’ ,
and original eden was created in the region inbetween both  —
God also “made a gate towards that south-realm” (see other pages) :
is it possible that”this gate opens – and the flood disappears inthere”…?
and may this be related to ,
lateron , “the water from the temple flowing into that same south realm” ? ;
 
16
[=but] – the – land=sea (?) [=’south-dimension ?’] – helped – the – woman (-out) ,
b
[=because] – the – land=abyss [=’idem’] (?) – opened – [..] her – mouth [=’as gate ?’] ,
c
and – swallowed up – the – flood          +
d
which – the – dragon – (had) cast – out – [..] (of-) his – mouth ;

 

 

17
and – the – dragon – (was) wroth – with – the – woman ,
b
and (-therefore) – went – to make – war          +
c
with – the – rest – [..] (of-) her – children ,                     [<< souls on earth still]
d
(who-) keep – the – instructions – [..] (of-) God        +
e
and – have – the – testimony – [..] (of-) Jesus – Christ .  

 

 

[2021.08aug.06/07.    —     submitted as first version and definitive]