Rev. 11     (KJV 11)
how the 144,000 sons
and daughters will witness
to Jacob on earth

(during the 7 trumpets)
[2021-08.aug.09]

 

theme [-and positioning of chapter]

 

… the buildup of all previous chapters is still Solid :
we are halfway now , as this earth has gone Dark and the 144 are saved ;
after the Intermezzo
it is best to first let this “foreshadowing” chapter follow
to explain several references to this theme which will happen during the trumpets ;
 
restored : the two witnesses : by the term ‘sons and daughters of God’ – as in prophets :
… and here mainly “because they will return to their people (on earth)”,
the ‘their people’ would render “the house Ishral and Judah” a bit too informal ;
 
deleted : the “heathens will trample the holy city (etc)” :
… as Esau’s corruption ,
having tried to suggest a theme about “this earthly Jerusalem” – and so he tried in line 8 ;
 
important concept – about the 144 – at this point :
… the souls of the 144,000 sons and daughters
will have received their Original (=new body) , already  :
yet their , now soul-less physical-body on earth (=this one) still “functions”  —
but as if ‘powered by the Originals’ :
meaning that Jacob will both see the Originals AND their (‘former’) physical body :
it’s true , this may seem a weird concept ,
but it is crucial in order for Jacob to recognize his sons and daughters – now as Originals
(or how would they know ‘that it are not demons talking to them’..?)   —
see also prophets (and Paul’s letters) ,
where the 144 will expláin to the people how they became like this ;
 
restored buildup :
… last line 19 , again about the temple , stands awkwardly isolated  —
what we would need :
first :
a clear description that the scene starts in Heaven (cq ‘at mt. tsiun’) ,
hence we moved line 19 forward to become line 1 ;
second :
a short introduction óf the 144,000 ,
and “that they will go back to earth”                             (needed , ultimately , before line 5) ,
and , if possible , the important reason for that :
so that souls will choose for God                                   (needed , ultimately ,  before line 5) ;
 
fulltext :  see below

 

Rev. 11

 

 
19. (!)
then I am standing near the temple of God in heaven ,                               [<< cq. ‘mt. tsiun’]
and I see the ark of his covenant in the temple ,
and there occur lightnings and sounds and thunders , and quakings , and great hail (?) ;
1. (!)
[corrupted 6x : perhaps : “and I see a large crowd round about the temple”…?]
1b.
and the angel standing next to me says :
these are the sons and daughters of God ,
who will witness to their (-own) people [=Jacob , as all to-be saved souls on earth] ;
2.
[very corrupted :]
because God will send them [=144] (-back) to the land [=earth] ,
and the people will recognize their sons and daughters
who will have become the sacred ones ,
standing in front of them [=the people] ;                              [2: restored acc/ to prophets]
4. (!)
[was totally corrupt – and put in another place : restored according to prophets :]
so that
many souls will swear (-allegiance) to God ,
and He will save them from the land [=earth]
because of their testimony ;
                                                                                                                 [part Ib : the 144,000 themselves :]
3. (!)
therefore the sons and daughters                                                         [<< having their Original !]
will be granted to witness 1260 days ,
while (appearing to the people like) being dressed in sackcloth [=’this body’] ;
5.
and if anyone wants to harm them [=144] ,
fire will proceed from their mouth , devouring their enemies ,
because anyone wanting to hurt them must be killed this way ;
6.
they will have authority to shut the sky ,                         [6: see note concerning ‘trumpets’]
so that no rain will fall during the days of their testimony ;
and they will have authority over the waters to turn them into blood ,
and to strike the land [=earth] with any kind of plague as often they want ;
7.
and when they will have completed their testimony ,
the Beast coming up out of the sea [=evil dimension of Mystery-Babylon]
will make war against them , conquer them , and kill them [=this body] ;
8.
and their dead bodies will lay on the squares of every city ;       +
8b. [corrupted]
9.
and all nations , as the people of every tribe and language ,
will look at their dead bodies three and a half days ,                        [<< per 1260?]
for their dead bodies will not be allowed to be put into a tomb ;
10.
and many inhabitants of the land [=earth] will rejoice over them ,
and even send presents to oneanother ,
because the two witnesses had tormented the inhabitants of the land ;
11.
but after three and a half days God will send life into them [=only the bodies] ,
so that they will stand upon their feet :
then great fear will fall upon the ones seeing them ;
12.
and they [=inhabitants] will hear a loud voice from heaven ,
saying to them [=bodies] :   come up to here ! ;
and they will go up to heaven in a cloud ,
while their enemies stare at them ;
13.
[unverifiable – but possible :]
and in that (-same) hour a great earthquake will occur ,
causing cities to collapse and killing many humans [=7000?] by the earthquake ;
but the rest [=as the believers] will have been awestruck ,
and they will give glory to the God of them .
end of chapter
14.        : [corrupt]
15-18 : is ‘the seventh trumpet’ – belongs to next chapters
 

 

Rev. 11 [-breakdown]

                             introduction to ‘the 7 trumpets’ : the sons and daughters of God :

below 19 :
… we cannot be 100% about ‘the ark’ in this line ,
but because the Originals have been rescued
(who represented the cherubs upon the – earthly – ark , see Paul’s letters) ,
it is próbable that the text remained correct here :
 
line
19 (!)
and=then – [+I] (am) opened=standing – (near-) the – temple – [..] (of-) God – in – [..] heaven ,
b
and – [+I] see – the – ark – [..] (of-) his – covenant – in – the – temple ,
c
and – (there) occur – lightnings – and – sounds – and – thunders ,
d
and – quakings – and – great – hail ;

 
1 (!)
a [..corrupted 6x..]       [perhaps : “and I see a large crowd round about the temple”…?]
b
and – the – angel – standing [+next to me] – says :
c
rise=these (are) – the – measure=sons – and – [..] temple=daughters – [..] (of-) God ,       +
d                                             (metreó=yhios)                        (naos=thygatêr)
and=who – [..] (will) altar=witness – and=to – [..] in=their – worship=people [=’Jacob’] [..] ;
                                 (thusiastérion=martyreô)                                    (proskuneó=anthropos)

 
2
[impossible corrupted :]                                               [2 : restore attempt according to prophets :]
a
and=because – [..] outside=God          +
b
[..] (will) court=send [+them] [=’144’] – (-back) (to-) the – land [=’earth’] ,  
c
[+and] – [..3x..]her=the – measure=people – (will) leave=recognize          +
d
[..1x..] – [+their] given=sons – [+and] [..] nations=daughters                                       [<< the 144]
e
and=who – [..] city=(will have) become – the – sacred (-ones) ,        
f
trample=standing – months=before – [..1x..]and=them [=’the people’][..1x..] ;

 
4 (!)
[unsure :]
a
these=so that        +
b
[+many] olivetrees=souls – (will) are=swear (-allegiance) – [..] (to-) two=God ,
c                    (alaia=psychê)                   (esti=omnyô)                                           (duo=theos)
and – [+He] (will) stand=save [+them] [=’souls’]God=from – the – land [=’earth’]      +
d                                    (histémi=sôtêria)
[..] two=because of – the=their – lampstands=testimony – [..1x..] ;
                                                                                (luchnia=martyria)

 
above 4 :
… KJV 4 pretends that “further (vague-) identification about the 144 is needed”
but this has already been included in the entire context  —
KJV 4 stands out of place there – and therefore likely was swapped position –
because the next KJV 3 “sackcloth line” IS the introduction to next sections :
 
 
part I b                                                                                                      the 144,000 themselves
 
below 3 :
… this time it is difficult ‘to escape’ the 1260 :
again – we’re very hesitant to repeat any timeframe ,
but the buildup of this 3 leaves little other chance considered the ‘1260 days’ theme
(and indeed it would need time ‘to speak with millions of souls’…) ;
2.
… as the start of a new section , we need a reconfirmation of the subject (in 3a) :
3.
the sons and daughters are not as soul ‘in this present body’ anymore
since they received their Original – see previous chapters ;
therefore we added “appearing like” ,
because the people will see both their [=144] gorgious being AND their physical apeframe :
 
3 (!)
and=therefore – the – two=sons – [+and] witnesses=daughters         +
b
[..] (will be) granted – to prophecy=witness – 1260 (?) – days (?) ,
c
[+while] [-appearing to the people like] (being) clothed (-in) – sackcloth [=’this body’] ;

 
5
and – if – anyone – (will) want – to harm – them [=’144’] ,
b
fire – (will) proceed – from – [..] their – mouth , [..] devouring – [..] their – enemies ;
c
[=because] – [..] anyone – wanting – to harm – them [..] – must – (be) killed – this way ;

 
below 6 :
… compare the (next-) first four trumpets ,
about “(the matrix-) poisoning 1/3d of the potable waters and sea” :
hence the 144 here could decide about life or death – and see next lines :
 
6
they – (will) have – authority – to shut – the – sky ,         +
b
so that – no – rain – (will) fall – (during-) the – days – [..] (of-) their – (..testimony..) ;
c
and – they (will) have – authority – over – the waters – to turn – them – into – blood ,
d
and – to strike – the – land – with any (-kind) – (of-) calamity – as often – [..] they want ;

 
below 7 :
… so “this present body will be soul-less , and ‘powered’ by the soul in her Original”,
and the ‘killing’ here only concerns this physical ape ;
good question is (we pondered that) “where will stay this present body , until then”
after the soul is taken out from it when Christ returns ..?
perhaps “i twill be temporary hidden (=invisible)”
also because it ofcourse cannot – should not – go into decay ; we don’t know ;

 

7
and – when – they (will have) completed – [..] their – testimony ,
b
the – Beast – coming up – out – (of-) the – abyss=sea [=’evil realm’] (abussos=thalassa)     +
c
(will) make – war – [=against] – them , [..] conquer – them , and – kill – them [=’this body’] ;

 
8
and – [..] their – dead – bodies        +
b
(will lay-) on – the – squares – [..] (of-) great=every (megas=pas) – city ;            +
c
[rest : deleted]      [=’Esau’s addition to go confuse’]

 
       rest of KJV line : “… which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt ,
                                                    where also our Lord was crucified.”
reason of deletion :
… it is but Vague superfluous information , for those who dón’t know prophets ;
Esau made sure that he linked back to his “Jerusalem” suggestion in line 2 ;

 
9
and – [+all] nations , [=as] the – people – [..] (of-) [+every] tribe – and – language
b
(will) look at – [..] their – dead bodies – three – and – (a-) half – days [=’per 1260 ?’] ,
c
[=for] – [..] their – dead bodies – (will) not – (be) allowed – (to be) put – into – (a-) tomb ;

 
10
and – [..] [+many] – inhabitants – [..] (of-) the – land [=’earth’]        +
b
(will) rejoice – over – them , and (-even) – send – presents – (to-) oneanother ,
c
because – [..] the – two – (..witnesses..)        +
d
(had) tormented – the – inhabitants – [..] (of-) the – land ;

 
11
[=but] – after – three – and – (a-) half – days      +
b
[..1x..] [..] – [..] God – (will) entered=send – life – into – them [=’only the bodies’] ,
c
and=so that – they (will) stand – upon – [..] their – feet :
d
[=then] – great – fear – (will) fall – upon – the (-ones) – seeing – them ;

 
12
and – they [=’inhabitants’] (will) hear – (a-) loud – voice – [=from] – [..] heaven ,
b
saying – (to-) them [=’the bodies’] :  come up – (to-) here ! ;
c
and – they (will) go up – into – [..] heaven – in – (a-) – cloud ,
d
[=while] – [..] their – enemies – stare (-at) – them ;
   

                                                                                                                                                           closing :

 
below 13 :
… we don’t know what “a tenth” and “7000” is doing in this line ,
and even cannot be sure about ‘the earthquake’ ;
2.
the “rest” : as ‘the saints’ :
… it would make sense that this ‘rest’ are all believers who just chose for God ,
seeing how they soon will be saved , as well ! 
(instead of “those same enemies , now in shock , suddenly praising God”) ;
and this makes the chapter end to return to the start ,
hence we changed the unpersonal ‘of heaven’ into “them” :

 

13
[unverifiable – but possible :]
a
and – in – that (-same) – hour – (a-) great – (earth-) quake – (will) occur ,
b
(causing) [..1x..][..] cities – to collapse         +
c
and – killing – [..1x..] – [=many] – humans [=’7000?’] – [=by] – the – (earth-) quake ;
d
[=but] – the – rest [=’as the believers’] – (will have) been – awestruck ,
e
and – they (will) give – glory – (to-) the – God – [..] (of-) heaven=them (ouranos=autos) .

 
end of chapter
 
14 :       corrupt
 
15-18 : is ‘the seventh trumpet’ – belongs to next chapters

 

next : the seven trumpets sound    >>>>

 

[2021.08aug.09.    —   first submission and definitive]