[added Dec. 2021 :
hell is definitely real – having SEEN the flames below ;
our careful question is ,
“would God not – at some point in the far future –
just do away with hell and every being inside it …?” ;
not because we would be sorry for satan or Esau
but just that those monsters would be even blotted out of memory ;
… perhaps we are wrong – then He will show that ,
we just question and try to understand]

[12 nov 2012 :
considered Esau’s numerous henchmen
who devised / promote / execute that damned chimera 666 jab
we HOPE that there is an eternal lake of fire for them —- forever ! ]

 

 
 

 

• what is NOT being said here :
•   – there is NO “heavenly Jerusalem coming down to earth , replacing the present one”,
  that is totally against prophets ;
•   – there is NO “satan and Gog attacking a beloved city – suggesting a Jerusalem on earth”;
•   – there is NO “heavenly Jerusalem with 12 gates / 12 foundations / 12 jewels” etc ;

 

contents of this page :

• A)   introduction : buildup of this chapter
• B)   fulltext                                                                          (click)
• C)   restored Greek text + notes                            (click)
• D)  who or what is ‘Satan’ , see bottom of index

 

                                                                          the 1000 years :
 
1)  starting when satan is bound :

… after the Beast with his army tried to attack Heaven , see Armageddon chapter ,
his army will lay slain upon the eastland
while the beast itself (-and his two frogs) is thrown into the fiery lake ;
now also the dragon is imprisoned – and eden paradise starts :
 
2)  eden paradise restored – and she has peace for a 1000 years :

… John sees ‘the restored eden paradise’ ,
declared as “the dwellingplace for My people – and I will dwell among them” ;

at this point , Esau went insane again ,
adding almost half a chapter (!) about his own “new Jerusalem theme”
(because he wanted to make sure that christians would link it to ‘this earthly Jerusalem’) ;
the thing however is
that prophets only mention “the restored eden land” and “the temple” upon her ,
and virtually nothing about a city in eden ;
therefore we maintained both the restored land and the temple (per Ezekiel) ,
having integrated “that eden is now in the north” – as an important theme in prophets ;

      sub 2) : but “only all the saved-souls during history” will dwell there :
      … KJV uses the term “resurrection”
      but “restoration” would cover it better – as ‘restored within her Original’ ;
      while the identification of the group of souls who is nót part of that
      may be “as the people who died during earth’s history ,
      but whose soul was not allowed to go to Heaven (-directly)”  —
      … you understand we phrase carefully
      because this type theme exceeds our Legal right … ;

3)  at the END of the 1000 years , satan [-and army] will attack eden :

… satan will NOT attack ‘some beloved city’ but “His beloved PEOPLE” ,
and ofcourse it can never be about ‘earth’ because she’s long destroyed by now ;
2.
the ‘deceiving’ :
… understood as “deceiving the demon-nations to go war against eden” ,
where the 1000 year Interval must be some type ‘Truce’ ;
it is possible that the demon-nations have some type ‘Legal right to exist’ ,
but that this right is anulled after they factually will attack eden ;
3.
eden – as ‘bridgehead’ ? :
… tricky – but probably related to the situation of the south-land
(see diagram in Ezekiel and Armageddon page, and others) ;
of this south-land ,
the eastern side is like “the outskirt of Heaven” ,
and the evil realm occupied that ‘in order to can feed upón Heaven’ 
(and , who knows , the evil realm planted their “tree of good and evil” there ,
almost like planting some kind of banner of them …?) ;
this eastern-land (-qdm) “will be holy (-qdsh) to IEUE”
after the armies of the Beast will have been slain there (as Armageddon) :
yet not holy ‘because of the slain’
but likely “because the evil realm will have lost jurisdiction over this east-land” ;

… which would make restored eden as the gate – the fortress – tó the east-land ,
hence attacking hér would be the only option left for satan and his army :
remniscent of the event in Genesis ,
but this time without success ;
4.
the ‘Gog and Magog’ problem :
… we cannot find where these terms come from – IF they are original ;
they seem to address “the demon-nations which still exist after Armageddon”,
but we neither have any idea where these would come from
(while a G-G root makes no sense nor in Spells nor Rg-veda) ;    
2 free

4)  closing : satan cast in the fiery lake ,
                          the other souls [-who died in history] judged ,
                          death itself judged

                                    sub 4) :  the ‘second death’ (but what happens with them..?)
         … though
         we do NOT agree with a concept as “universal reconciliation”,
         the last line of this chapter we are unable to restore :
         we simply do not knów whether “rejected souls will just cease to exist”,
         or if “they will burn in the lake of fire” (and that ‘together with satan’..?) ;
         … we tend to the first option ,
         also because ‘death itself will be judged ,
         but also because “burn in the lake” seems an extremely Harsh sentence to us —
         we (thankfully) just lack the Legal right to conclude anything here ;

 

 
 fulltext :

                                     [Satan bound for 1000 years (‘the Interval’) : eden rules again :]
1.
then I see an angel going forth from Heaven ,
having the key of the abyssmal (-pit) ,                                          [<< in south-dimension]
and large chains in his hand ;
2.
and he seizes the dragon ,                                                                          [2 : see introduction]
the serpent of olden ,
which is called Satan the adversary ,
and binds him (for-) a thousand years ;
3.
then he casts him into the abyssmal (-pit) ,                                [<< ‘Dudâel’ in Henoch]
and locks it up by sealing it ;                           
so that he will not mobilize the nations [=of spirits] anymore            [<< see Greek]
until the thousand years will have ended ;
because after these (-years) he must be loosed a short time ;
                                                          [part I b : the restored paradise – in the other reality :]
10. (!)                                                                                                                                       [KJV Rev. 21]
then the angel brings me      +
to the sacred mountain of God ,                                                           [<< carrying paradise]
and shows me the heavenly land which was desolated ,
(now-) having ascended out of the sea [=matrix-dimension] of the beast ;
1. (!)
and I see a new sky and a new land ,                          [many corrupt KJV lines deleted ,
because the former (earthly-) sky                               see Greek text and introduction]
and the former (earthly-) land have passed away ;       
2.
and I John look at the new heavenly land ,
having been restored by God ,
now prepared as the adorned dwellingplace ;
3.
then I hear a loud voice out of Heaven saying :
behold ! , the garden of God for His people ,                                                     [<< Genesis]
where He will dwell amongst them ;
and they will be His people ,
and God himself will be the deity for them ;
4.
and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes ,
and there will be no more death ,
nor sorrow , nor painful emotions , nor suffering anymore :
because the former things will have passed away” ;
                                                                                                                                   [next : land + temple]
11.
then the angel shows me the foundations of the (eden-) land ,
having been made of every kind of precious stones ;                [11 : att. in prophets]
11b.
I also see the temple of God ,      +
15. (!)                                                                                                                                        [15 : Ezekiel]
and the angel has a golden (?) reed
for to measure the temple and the outer court thereof ;      +
16.
and the temple lies foursquare
for the length is the same like the width ;                            [<< rest : deleted = corrupt]
1. (!)                                                                                                                                            [KJV Rev. 22]
then he shows me a river of water of life , clear as crystal ,
flowing out of the temple of God towards the east ;                                         [1 : Ezekiel]
2.
and where she deepens (?) ,
on both sides of the river are trees of life (?) ,
producing their fruits every single month ;                              [<< attested in prophets]
      and the people of God
      will rejoice in them forever ;                                                                               [<< bit unsure]
                                                [part II : the ‘1000 years’ + the tricky ‘resurrection’ theme :]
5. (!)                                                                                                                                        [KJV Rev. 21:5]
then the angel says to me :
now , after God will have restored all His people ,       +
4. (!)                                                                                                                                           [KJV Rev. 20]
                                                                  [a-b-c : skipped ; was needed in a previous chapter]
4d.
they will live and reign with Christ a thousand years ;       +
5.
but the rest of the dead       +                                             [<< died on earth during history]
will not be revived [=their soul] until the thousand years have ended ,
(and these will nót take part in-) this first resurrection / restoration ;
6.
therefore , blessed be the souls        +
who will have part in this resurrection / restoration :
over these the second (-and final) death (-of the soul) has no authority ,
because they will be the people of God ,
and they will reign with Christ a thousand years ;
 
                                                         [part II b : after the 1000 years , satan will attack again :]
7.
now , when the thousand years will have ended ,
satan will be released out of the abyssmal pit ;
8.
and he will go forth to deceive the nations [=of spirits]
in the four corners of the sea ;                                                            [<< Negative dimension]
as mobilizing Gog (?) and Magog (?) for the war ,
whose number is like the sand of the sea ;
9.
and they will ascend (!) to the (eden-) land in the north ,                        [<< not : ‘city’ !]
as encircling the dwellingplace of the beloved people of God ;
but He will make fire out of heaven to come down upon them [=’G+M’] ,
which will devour all of them ;
10.
yet the adversary (-himself) that deceived them
will be cast into the lake of fire and brimstone ,
where the beast and the two frogs (?) are ;                                        [<< no ‘false prophet’]
and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever ;
                                                            [part II c : the ‘second death’ – and death itself judged :]
11.
then I see a great white throne ,
and before the face of the one sitting on it
will appear the souls       +
who had nót been part of the first resurrection / restoration ;
13. (!)
because death and [=as?] the underworld
deliver up the souls that were in them ,         +
c.
as the people who died in former times ;
d.
for each will be judged according to her [=soul] works ;
12.
then I see the souls , small and great , standing before God ,
and the books are being opened ,
while another book is opened which is the one of Life ;
and the souls are judged according to their works
which have been written in the book ;
                                                                                                                             [closing : last line : unsure]
14-c.
and this is the second (-and final) death (-for those souls) :
15.
whoever was not found written in the scroll of life            +
was cast into the lake of fire ,                                                                                 [+ and brimstone]
together with death and [=as?] the underworld ,
14-b.
     (..and none of them was found anymore (?)…)                         [<< but see introduction]     
 

 

[total of lines : around 23]

 

BREAKDOWN :

 
                             Satan bound for 1000 years (‘the Interval’) : eden rules again
1
[=then] – I see – (an-) angel – descending=going forth – [=from] – [..] Heaven ,
b
having – the – key – (of-) the – abyssmal (-pit) ,             [<< in south-dimension]
c
and – large – chains – in – [..] his – hand ;
 
2
and – he seizes – the – dragon ,                                                      [2 : see introduction]    
b
the – serpent – (of-) olden ,
c
which (is) – is=called – [..] Satan [=’adj.’] – (the-) adversary ,
d
and – binds – him – [for-] (a-) thousand – years ;
 
3
[=then] – he casts – him – into – the – abyssmal (-pit) ,        [<< ‘Dudâel’ in Henoch]
b
and – locks – it [=’abyss’] (-up) – and=by – sealing – [..] it ;                  [3-c : see Greek]
c
so that – he (will) – not – deceive=mobilize – the – nations [=’of spirits’] anymore
d
until – the – thousand – years – (will have) ended ;
e
and=for – after – these [-years] – [+he] must – [..] (be) loosed – (a-) short – time ;

above 3 : “MOBILIZING” (rather than ‘deceiving’) :
… the theme is not “the nations on earth” , therefore ‘deceiving’ falls short :
in the last part of this chapter Satan will make a final attempt to invade Eden ,
by “mobilizing (the nations of spirits)” ;
that he does this ‘by deceiving them’
may mean “that the demonic realm has a legal right to exist” ,
but not anymore if they all will go attack eden ;
                                                                                                                                               [KJV Rev. 21]

part I b                                                     the restored paradise – in the other reality
 
10 (!)                                                        
a
[=then] – the – spirit=angel – brings (=pheró) – me        +
b
to – (the-) great=sacred (megas=hagios) – mountain – [and=the] (of-) high=God
c                                                                                                                                         (hupsélos=theos) ,
and – shows – me – the – great=heavenly (magas=ouranos) – [..] city=land
d
[..] holy=which (hagios=hos) – (was) jerusalem=desolated
e
(having) descending=ascended – out – (of-) the – heaven=sea [=’matrix-dimension’]
f                                                                                                        (ouranos=thalassa)
(of-) the – […]=beast (?) ;  

               deleted : all next [KJV-] lines 11-14 and 17-21 and 23-27 (see introduction)
 
1 (!)
and – I see – (a-) new – sky – and – (a-) new – land ,
b
because – the – former – [earthly-] sky         +
c
and – (the-) former – land [=’earth’] – (have) passed away ;        +
d
[delete 5x ?]                                                                            [‘sea’ we used already in above 10]

below 2 :
… technically “the 144,000 restore the land” (under God’s lead , ofcourse)
but that notion is impossible to insert here :
 
2                                                                             [2c : Greek : “the land the heavenly the new”]
and – I – John – look at        +
b
[..1x..] – the – new – [..] holy=heavenly (hagios=ouranos) – city=land ,
c
(having been) coming=restored – from=by – [..] God ,
d
out=now – [..1x..] – prepared – as – (the-) adorned – bride=dwellingplace (3-c?) ;
e
[..4x..]
 
3
[=then] – I hear – (a-) loud – voice – out – [..] (of-) Heaven – saying :
b
behold ! , the – temple=garden – [..] (of-) God – [=for] – [+His] – [..] humans=people ,
c
and=where – He (will) dwell – with=among – them ;
d
and – they – (will) be – his – people ,
e
and – [..] God – himself – (will) be – [..2x..] – (the-) deity – (for-) them ;
 
4
and – [..] God – (will) wipe away – every – tear – from – [..] their – eyes ,
b
and – (there-) (will) be – no – more – [..] death ,
c
nor – sorrow , nor – painful emotions , nor – suffering – anymore :
d
because – the – former (-things) – (will have) passed away” ;

                                                [1-4 was 1 section : starting and ending w/ ‘passed away’ ;
                                                2.
                                                next KJV section starts a totally DIFFERENT theme]

land + temple :
                                                                                                [11a-c : attempt , but attested in prophets]
11
[+then] – the – glory=angel – having=shows [+me]          +
b
the – light=foundations [=’KJV 14-a’] [..] – (of-) the – God=land ,
c
like=(having been) made (homoios=poieô) – (of-) (every kind of-) – precious – stones ;
 
d
[now we’d need a bridge : attempt :]
–
gem=I see – and=also – (the-) jasper=temple (iaspis=naos) – (of-) crystal=God ,
15 (!)
and – the – talked=angel – [..] [..] has – (a-) golden (?) – reed         +
b
that=for – to measure – the – city=temple (polis=naos)        +
c
and – the – [..] [..] wall=outer – [..] [..] gates=court (pulón=aulê) – thereof ;
16
and – the – city=temple (polis=naos) – lies – foursquare ,
b
and=for – the – length – (is the-) same – [=like] – the – width ;      +
c
[deleted]             [‘measuring the city as 12,000 furlongs’]

above d + 15-16 :
… we didn’t want to leave out “the measuring of the temple”
since that theme is also described in Ezekiel (as well that she is ‘square’) ,
but the ’12,000 furlongs’ Esau invented from next line 2 ;
                                                                                                                                        [KJV Rev. 22]
            [theme is still : the temple !]
1
[=then] – he shows – me – (a-) river – (of-) water – (of-) life ,
b
clear – as – crystal ,
c
proceeding – out – (of-) the – throne=temple (thronos=naos) – [..] (of-) God
d
[attempt :]
–
and=towards – the – Lamb=east (arnion=anatolê) ;                          [per Ezekiel]

below 2 : very difficult to interpret :
… actually because we have only little information   –
we know of one chapter describing these trees (at both banks) ,
adding “how they will yield fruit by several harvests per year” ;
but
we don’t know what to do with the one (or more..?) tree of life ,
nor where this one could be located   —
or now ‘instead of 1 tree there will be many more’
since the population is obviously very large …? , and see (possible) text :
2.
the ‘twelve’ :
… from here came Esau’s idea for his ‘12 gates / 12 stones’ etc corruption ;
 
2
in=and – midst=where – [..] her=she – street=deepens (?) ,
b
[=on] – (..both..) – [..] (..sides..) – (of-) the – river – (are) woods=trees – (of-) life (?) ,
c
producing – twelve=delicious (?) – fruit ,                  [<< hence Esau’s ‘12’ corruption]
d
[=as] – yielding – her=their – fruits – every – single – month ;
e
[can’t be ‘healing’ nor ‘nations’ : we can make a bridge to “His people” now :]
–
and – the – leaves=people – [..] [..1x..] – (of-) for=God (eis=theos)               +
f
(will) healing=rejoice [+in them] [=’fruits’] (?) – the=for – nations=ever (?, KJV 5)
                                                                                                                                (ethnos=aiônios) ;
 
3   [3-4-5 : deleted ; Esau’s excuse-lines]
4
5
6   [<< see Rev. closing chapter]
                                                                                                                                          [KJV Rev. 21:5]
 
part II            the Interval – as ‘the 1000 years’  + the tricky ‘resurrection-theme’
 
this section :
… the great question is ofcourse “whó are these souls”  —
per context it doesn’t look like “the ones having sworn to the beast” :
 
5
[=then] – the – sat=angel – says [+to me] :
b
[lineup :]
–
on=now , behold=after – [..] throne=God (thronos=theos)        +
c
(will have) make=restored – all – [+His] new=people ,       +          [goto 4-d below]
d
[deleted]          [belongs to closing chapter]                                                  
                                                                                                                                               [KJV Rev. 20]
 
below 4 :
… we had to use 2/3d of the line already in a previous chapter :
 
4
a-b-c   [skipped]
d
they (will) live – and – reign – with – Christ – (for a-) thousand – years ;
5
[=but] – the – rest – (of-) the – dead      +                           [<< died on earth during history]
B
(will) not – (be) revived [=’their soul’] – until – the – thousand – years – (have) ended ;
C
(and these will nót take part in-) – this – [..] first – [..] resurrection / restoration ;
 
6
[+therefore] , blessed (be) – and=the – holy=souls (hagios=psychê)           +
b
the=who – (will) have – part – in – [..] [+this] – [..] first – resurrection / restoration :
c
over – these – the – second (-and final) – [..] death [-of the soul] – has – no – authority ,
d
but=because – they (will) be – (the-) priests=people – [..] (of-) God ,
e
[lineup :]                                                                                    [below 6-e : see 4-d]
–
and – [..] they (will) reign – [..] [+with] Christ – [..] [..] (a-) thousand – years ;

 

part II b                                             after the 1000 years , satan will attack again
 
7                                                                                                                   [7b : per KJV Rev.20]
[=now] , when – the – thousand – years – (will have) ended ,
b
satan – (will be) released – out – (of-) the – prison=abyssmal (-pit) [..] ;
 
8
and – he (will) go forth – to deceive – the – nations [=’of spirits’]        +
b
in – the – four – corners – (of-) the – land=sea [=’Negative dimension’] ;
c
[+as] – mobilizing – Gog (?) – and – Magog (?) – [..] [=for] – the – war ,
e
whose [=”Gog + Magog”] – [..] number – [..] (is) like – the – sand – (of-) the – sea ;
 
above 8 :
… we still have problems with this ‘Gog & Magog’ thing ,
and eventhough these also appear in Ezekiel it don’t mean we understánd it ;
2.
… neither we understand “where all these demon-nations come from”, still ;
 
9
[+lineup :]
a
and – they (will) ascend (!) – (to-) the – [eden-] land – on=in – the – breadth=north ,
b                                                                                                                                                 (platos=borras !)
[=as] – encircling – the – camp=dwellingplace        +
c
(of-) the – [..] beloved – saints=people – [..] [..] (of-) city=God (polis=theos) ;
d
and=but – [+He] (will make)        +
e
fire – out – [..] (of-) heaven – to come down – from=upon – [..] God=them ,
f
and=which – (will) devour – (all of-) them [=”Gog & Magog”] ;
 
10
[=yet] – the – adversary (-himself) – [=that] – deceived – them        +
b
(will be) cast – into – the – lake – [..] (of-) fire – and – [..] brimstone ,
c
where – the – beast – and – the – false=two prophet=frogs (?) (-are) ;
d
and – they (will be) tormented – day – and – night – [=for] – [..] ever – [=and] – ever ;

 

part II c                      the ‘second death’ – then death itself judged

 

11
[=then] – I see – (a-) great – white – throne ,
b
and – [..1x..] – from=before – (the-) face – (of-) the (one-) – sitting – on – it       +
c
[now something logical must follow :]                    [11 : original theme must return]
–
(..+(will) appear..) – (the-) fled=souls (pheugó=psychê)          +
d
the=who (he=hou) – [..1x..] – the=had (ho=chô) – and=nót – (been) heaven=part
e
(of-) and=the – [..1x..] – found=first – place=resurrection / restoration [..] ;
 
13 (!)
[is a mess… : but also cause we’re not sure what was intended here :]
a
and=because – [..] death – and (?) [=’as?’] – the – underworld          +
b
deliver up – the – dead=souls – the=that (were) – in them ,
c (=a)
[+as] the – sea=people – (who-) gives=died – [..] in – dead=former – her=times ;
d
[=for] – each [=’soul’] – (will be) judged – according to – [..] [=her] – works ;
 
12
[=then] – I see – the – dead=souls , small – and – great [=’everybody’] ,
b
standing – before – [..] God ,
c
and – the – books [=’scrolls’] – (are being) opened ,
d
[=while] – another – book – (is) opened – which – is – the (-one) – [..] (of-) Life ;
e
and – the – dead=souls – (are) judged – according – [..] (to-) their – works
f
[=which] – (have been) written – in – the – book ;

 

closing                       (disclaimer : we’ve no authority for the final line)

 

problems with KJV 14-15 :
syntax : the repeated “cast into the lake of fire”  – in 2 so short lines –
may indicate that the original wrote something else
(but then again : also the “judged according to works” was a repeat…) ;
a second possible indication can be that ‘brimstone’ was left out here ;
2.
last line : see introduction :
 
14
c
[+and] – this – is – the – second (-and final) – death (-for those souls) :
15
a
[..] whoever – was – not – found – written – in – the – scroll – [..] (of-) life     +
b
(was) cast – into – the – lake – (of-) fire , [+and brimstone] ,
14
a
and=together with – [..] death – and [=’as?’] – the – underworld ,
b
[totally unsure :]
                                      (..and none of them was found anymore (?)..)