Rev. 7    (KJV 5)
only the Lamb can receive
the scroll from God –
but by the 144 understanding
the text, the seals are opened

 

 

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Rev. 7 (KJV 5)

 

fulltext :                                                       important : the text itsélf is sealed up : not ‘the book’ :
1.
then I see , in the right hand of the one [=God] sitting on the throne ,
the (same-) scroll where was written inside ,                                              [<< two chapter ago]
as the text having been sealed with seven seals ;
2.
and I see the (same-) strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice :
who is worthy to take the scroll [=from God’s hand] ,
so that the seals in it [=text] will be released ? ;
3.
but no one in heaven nor on the land [=earth] nor beneath the land
is able to take the scroll in order that it [=the text] can be discerned ;
4.
therefore I am crying much ,
because no one is found worthy to take the scroll ,                                    [<< 3x ‘take’ now !]
in order that it [=the text] can be discerned ;
                                                                                                                               [the introduction of Christ :]
5.
but one of the elders is saying to me :   do not weep ;
behold ! , the Son of man , who has the key of David ,               [<< no Cult-fanatism now]
has prevailed to take the scroll ,
so that the seals in it [=the text] can be released ;
                                                                                                                                                       [Christ appears :]
6.
then I look up , and behold ! ,
before the throne , in the centre between the four animals [=cherubs] and the elders ,
stands a Lamb as having been slain ;
having seven horns , and seven eyes (-upon them) ,                                    [<< the 7 Torches]
as the seven spirits of God which are commissioned to sustain the land [=eden] ;
7.
and he [=Christ] comes forward and takes the scroll                                                         [<< 5x]
out from the hand of the one sitting on the throne ;
                                                                                   [the first christians prayers : see Paul ’s letters]
8.
and after he takes the scroll ,                                                                                                         [<< 6x !]
the four animals [=cherubs] and the twenty four elders fall down before the Lamb ,
each of the elders holding a vial full of odours [=prayers] ,
which were the prayers of the saints [=as the first christians] ;
part II                                                                                                     now : a second group introduced
                                                                                                      [as the ones halfway previous chapter]
                                                                                                                             for whom they have prayed :
9.

  • a.  [skipped / corrupt]                                                                                            [9 : was totally cut up]
  • b.   [the 24-] saying :
  • d.   these [=that group] were slain ,                           [<< hate their body , see prev. chapter]
  • e.   for you have bought (!) them to God with your blood ,
  • c.   and they are worthy to discern [=line 3+4!] the scroll
    so that the seals in it [=text] will be released ;
  • f.   by means of them understanding the prophets ,
    as the words which God has spoken [-through them] ; 

10.
therefore you will make them the sons and daughters of God [=as 144,000] ,
as the ones in charge of the eden land ;                                                                   [<< prev. ch. 5]
                                                                                                                           [the 144,000 souls appear :]
11.
then I see , and hear the sound , of many souls [=likely]
beneath the throne and the animals and the elders ;
and the number of them is
one hundred thousand four hundred and fourty four ;
12.
saying with a loud voice :
worthy is the Lamb that was slain ,
returning the power and riches , and wisdom and strength ,
and honour , and glory and blessing ;
                                                                                                                            [the other beings respond :]
13.
a,b,c         [..then I see the myriads of angels..,]  +  (?)                                                  [<< unsure]
13d.
all of them I hear saying : blessing and honour and glory
be to the one sitting on the throne , and to the Lamb ,
as the might for ever and ever ;
14.
and the four animals [=cherubs] say : so be it ;
and the twenty four elders fall down and worship the one living for ever and ever .

 
breakdown of 7 [-KJV 5] :
 
                                                                        important : the text itsélf is sealed up : not ‘the book’ :
1
[=then] – I see , in – the – right – [..] hand – (of-) the (-one) – sitting – on – the – throne ,
b
(the-) (-same) – scroll – (where was-) written – inside ,                             [<< 2 chapters ago]
c
and=as (the-) back=text – (having been) sealed – (with-) seven – seals ;

 
2
and – I see – (that same-) strong – angel – proclaiming – (with a-) loud – voice :
b
who (is) – worthy – to open=take – the scroll [-from God’s hand] ,
c
and=so that – the – seals – (in-) it [=’in the text’] – (will be) released (G3089) ? ;

 
3
[=but] – no one – in – heaven – [=nor] – on – the – land [=’earth’]          +
b
[nor=] – beneath – the – land          +                                                    [3ab : lit. ‘heaven and earth’]
c
(is) able – to open=take – the – scroll [-form His hand]       +
d
and=in order that – it [=the text’] – (can be) discerned ;                              

 
4
[=therefore] – I (am) – crying – much ,
b
because – no one – (is) found – worthy – to open=take – the – scroll ,
c
and=in order that – it [=the text’] – (can be) discerned ;                              

                                                                                                                                   the introduction of Christ :
5
[=but] – one – [..] (of-) the – elders – (is) saying – (to-) me :  (do) not – weep ;
b
[restored into non-schism text : per Revelation 3 :]

behold ! , the – lion=Son – [..] (of-) being=man (on=anthtrôpós)           +
c
out=who – [..] tribe=has (phulé=echô) – the – root=key (rhiza=kleis) – (of-) David
d
(has) prevailed – [-in order] to open=take  – the – scroll ,
e
and=so that – the – seals – (in-) it [=’in the text’] – (can be) released (G3089) ;    

 
                                                                                                                                                            Christ appears :
 

above 5 :
…  refusing to Legally restore line 5 according to the whims of the christian-zionist Cult ,
there is no reason for endless discussions :

  • a)   it’s not logical because wrong context that he is ‘a lion’ here – compare next line 6 ;
  • b)   the ‘tribe of Judah’ :
    nonsense : it does not matter from what earthly descend He was born in this ape  —
  • c)   the ‘root of David’ :
    not even true in itself , and we know Esau placed the same corruption in prophets :
    the term “David” means “the masculine legal rule of Eden” in prophets ,
    therefore only the expression “keys of David” (Rev.3) is proper : also per theme ;

 
                                                                                                                                                             Christ appears :
6
[=then] – I look up , and – behold ! ,
b
[..] centre=before – the throne , [+in] – (the-) and=centre         +
c
(-between) – the – four – animals [=’cherubs’] – and – [..2x..] – the – elders ,
d
stands – (a-) Lamb – as – (having been) slain ;
e
having – seven – horns  , and – seven – eyes [-upon them] ,
f
[=as] – [..] the – seven – spirits [=’the 7 torches’][..] (of-) God              +
g
the=which (are) – commissioned – to – all=sustain – the – land [=’eden’] ;

 
above 6 : the Torches :
… these are created – feminine – beings , regulating and maintaining aspects
which sustain the eden creation (see index + spells) ;
in prophets these seven are stolen by Mystery-Babylon to sustain théir realm ,
but they will be set free and set the foreign land on fire ;
their nature :
… the torches “produce aspects of creation by means of their words”,
for total lack of expression : as if their words function like ‘the atoms which we know’ ;
and HOW their words form creational aspects is said to them by (the aspect) ‘Speech’ ,
which kind of … commands them how the aspects need to look
[remember , we try say something here having no appropriate terms] ;
but
you can see already the relation between “(masculine-) Speech” and ‘the 7 thunders’ :
and if we would extend this connection ,
where the thunders are sealed within the scroll , Rev. 4 (KJV 10) ,
then “the ópening of the seals” should mean
that “the (masculine-) Legal Right of the (feminine-) Attribute is restored”  —
and therefore the entire concept itself ;
same concept in Rev. 2 : linked to the 7 churches :
… said as ‘Christ having the 7 stars in his hand , walking between 7 candlesticks’ ,
showing that He won them back already – just like here ;
identification of both :
… the ‘stars’ must be “the torches themselves” , as feminine , as core ,
while the ‘lampstands’ should be …the masculine constructs carrying them ,
but
we have no workable concept , yet , to identify the candlesticks ;
however , per context these should be “the seven horns” in this line 6 ;
 
7
and – he [=Christ] comes forward – and – takes (!!) – the – scroll          +
b
out from – the – right (-hand) – (of-) the (-one) – sitting – upon – the – throne ;

 
                                                                                                   the prayers of the first christians :
8
and – when=after – he takes (!!) – the – scroll ,
b
the – four – animals [=’cherubs’] – and – the – twent four – elders
c
fall down – before – the – Lamb ,
d
each – (of the-) harp=elders – [..] holding  – (a-) vial – full of – odours [=’prayers’] ,                
e
which – were – the – prayers – (of-) the – saints [=’first christians’] ;

 
above 8 :
… we saw how Christ said to his disciples that they will rule with him ,
and that Paul ’s letters to his fellows was about “pray for the souls in the endtime
that they will discover the words of God in prophets”   —
it therefore makes sense that they carry this very symbol here  (and see 9) ;
the ‘24’ :
… we don’t know yet why this number is doubled ,
apart from the apostles perhaps 12 OT-prophets ? ;

 

part I b                                                                                            next : a second group introduced :
                                                                                                    [as the ones halfway previous chapter]
 
[the notes are not our mistake – but Esau’s : we just read carefully :]
SITUATION RIGHT NOW :
a)  there was no one worthy to take (4 x !) the scroll ,
b)  the elder has said “don’t worry – there IS someone worthy” ,
scene changes :
c)  the 24 elders thank Christ that he heared their prayers : so now a next group appears :

  • d)  therefore
    it is not logical that the 24 agáin start saying ‘worthy’ , in this 9 ;
  • e)  for it are not they ‘who are redeemed’ : but the next group !
  • f)  syntax of 9 :
    we don’t believe nothing of the “singing a new song”, is somehow too overdone
    (just like ‘harps’ in 8 was misplaced / concocted) ,
    it seems Esau cut & pasted this 9 in sections , turning the sentence inside out :

g)   the “tongues and nations” here is 99% likely the same corruption as in ch. 5 (KJV13) ;    
 
9
a
[skipped : ‘sing a new song’]                                                                                   [9 : was totally corrupted]
b
[the 24-] saying :                                                                           [<< MUST follow upon 8 as explanation]
d
these [=’group’] – (were) slain       +                                       [<< ‘hate their body’, see prev. chapter]
e
and=for – you – (have) bought (! ,G59)us=them – (to-) God (!) – [=with] – your – blood ,
c
[+and] – you=they (are) – worthy – to take=look inside [=’line 3+4 !’] – the – scroll

[=so that] – the – [..1x..] – seals – (in-) it [=’text’] – (will be) opened=released ;
f
out=by (-means of) – [+them] every=understanding – (the-) prophets (phulé=prophêtês)          +
g
and=as – (the-) language=words – and=which – [and=the] people=God – (has) people=spoken ;
                                    (glossá=logos)                                                              (ethnos=theos)               (laos=legô)

 
                                                                                                       confirmation that this group are the 144,000 :

 

 

10
and=therefore        +                                                                                    [10 : stated in prophets]

you (will) make – us=them – kings=sons – and – priests=daughters – [..] (of-) God ,
b
and=as – we=the ones in charge – [..] (of-) the – land [=’eden’] ;     [<< prev. ch. 5]

 
                                                                                                                                 the 144,000 appear :
below 11 :
… now we have the Uncertainty Factor :
considered the buildup , and that the first christians had prayed for the souls ,
the latter theme should continue here
(in some next chapter will also be “souls beneath the altar”) :
2.
… hów the below event happened is not very clear    –
concerning the timeframe “over three years ago”
because that was the time ‘when the scroll was given’ ,
but we wouldn’t know how the event in time-dimension could unfold ;

 

 
11
and=then – I see , and – hear – the – sound – (of-) , many – angels=souls (?) ,       +
b
round=beneath – the – throne – and – the – animals – and – the – elders ;
c
and – the – number – (of-) them – is
d
[obviously :]

one – hundred – thousand – four – hundred – and – fourty – four ;

 
next 12 :
… because the 144 will be the caretakers of the eden land (and see prev. chapter) ,
the context of what they say in next 12 must be “about her complete restoration”
(Esau may have omitted a ‘land’ in this 12 but we can’t be sure) :
 
12                                                                                                                                 and they say praise :
saying – (with a-) loud – voice :
b
worthy – is – the – Lamb – (that-) (was) slain ,
c
receive=returning – the – power – and – riches , and – wisdom – and – strength ,

and – honour , and – glory – and – blessing ;         

 

                                                                                                now ‘myriads of angels’ say praise (?) :

problem with 13 a-c :
… at this point in time , the eden land is still ruined :
it is – at least – weird to state now ‘that she and all that is in her’ are praising ;
searching fourth parties – like “our Originals” leads to a contextual mess :
our suspicion
is that Esau moved the “angels theme” to previous 11 , as coverup there ,
and used his thumb to invent “sea and land and creatures” here :
 
13
a, b , c
[..then – I see – myriads – (of-) land=angels (gê=aggelos) .. ,]   +   (?)      [<< unsure]
d
[resumed :]

all – (of-) them – I hear – saying :
e
[..] blessing – and – [..] honour – and – [..] glory          +
f
(be) (to-) the (-one) – sitting – on – the – throne , and – (to-) the – Lamb ,
g
and=as – the – might – [=for] – [..] ever – [=and] – ever ;

 
                                                                                     closing : the elders and 4 animals respond :
14
and – the – four – animals [=’cherubs’] – say : so be it ;
b
and – the – twenty four – elders – fall down          +
c
and – worship – the one living – [=for] – [..] ever – and – [..] ever .
 

 

[2021.07jun.23.   —      submitted as first version and definitive]