start : may 8

… about the origin of our ’40 days’ problem (page) ; where the many “four-fold” stolen eden aspects seem to emerge from the important ‘sea of glass’ which however is “the tried (stolen) corner-stone” in front of the throne in God’s eden palace , that generated these several “fourfold aspects”  – this theme is even more complex as the Noah  and ‘144,000’ one yet extremely interesting , do please read with much goodwill & patience :

 
                                                                                               theme :
 
 … after we saw how the ’40 days’ consistently relate to ‘Adam’ and that they
   appear in a certain pattern — while it is a composition of ‘4’ and ‘Adam’s 10’
   as an illegal combination , searching this ‘4’ turns out to be a deep dive :

only summarizing this please because there is so much more : we knew the eden realm as a house (a cube , per Enoch) and that in Daniel the goat attacked it (as the Râ boat in the Spells) , then they made the main axis to grow getting four horns on top (Daniel) as the four matrix-cardinal-points that came to be represented as “the four horses”  [one day we’ll have better graphs but please first get all the themes correct , okay]  ; implying that “the four eden cherubs” must link to “the eden cardinal-points” : but how ?

    were they four ‘horses’ ?
    … though so mentioned in Revelation based on Zechariah we can never trust
    what Esau wrote while “horses” is one of his favorite deflections as a rather
    negative type animal in the Scroll [‘long story’]  : so what was the reasoning to
    go from “four cherubs” or their attributes to ‘four negative horses in the north’ ?

for comparison ,     in the Spells (see posted PT about this theme)     the ‘bull of heaven’ GESUT with it’s four horns     constantly attacks the Eden land ; while their     voracious cardinal-points are ‘crocodiles’    >>

    interestingly with the root MES- ‘to birth’ so they have come into existence ,
    namely ‘after Eden’ fell — wherefore this comparison is all valid , so far ;
    perhaps these voracious cardinal-points cóuld be ‘horses’ in the Scroll but then
    we still lack the reasoning ‘from four cherubs to four horses’ 
    [to be complete : also the Rg-Veda knows horses – as the two steeds of Indra ,
    but those are related to the day and night of this sun , not to cardinal-points]  ;
    we need to go back to the four cherubs ,
    and also how they are linked to the corrupt ’24 elders’ theme in Revelation 
 
                                                  the four cherubs — and their evil copies
 
… because this theme is so corrupted by Esau again we can look , carefully (!) ,
what Egypt has to say about how their axis with cardinal points came into being ,

and a notable concept is their ‘four sons of Horus’ as if immediately gleaned from the four animals : where Horus rules the region of their matrix gate (-of Adam) , his four sons are the four directions ; but other than that it is very difficult to grasp the náture of these ‘sons’ also because the theme itself is complicated — from the useful PT spells it shows that they “wanted the type atmosphere in eden”, “from the ruddish ox” : not only is the ox one of four cherubs but ‘ruddish’ links to the aspect given to Adam (‘red, ruddy’) ! with other words : the four eden cherubs were linked to “types of energy in the atmosphere” perhaps governing the birds & land animals  — again , it’s but an attempt at phrasing , please

 
    Horus and the serpent-race 
    … in Revelation the four cherubs ‘stand in the throne room’ as the eden gate 
    even though they are responsible “for aspects of the land” — while the four
    sons of Horus are linked to his matrix-gate region ;
    however it is strange how the spells – written by the Ammon sons of Adam –
    very much focus upon Horus concerning this theme , not upon Adam , even
    calling Horus ‘our father’ for unclear reasons : 
    though the figure Horus (as ‘falcon’) always remained a but elusive for us
    he may well be related to the serpent-race : as the (evil-) type of animal
    souls it could explain why Horus was so interested in the eden-cherubs !
    however , something more nefarious may have happened :
    curiously Horus is never depicted as humanoid yet in the time before eden
    (-and afterwards) they did have – or ‘could assume’ ? – a humanoid form ;
    yet in the time just after eden fell he may have obtained an eden-body 
    befóre God closed down that ‘possibility’   —
    this may be in the Spells the “Horus as the babe (child)” theme while in
    Rg-Veda a figure “is born in a nest then chased with arrows by the people 
    of that place” , strongly suggesting an illegal obtaining of an eden-body ;
    while in Rg-Veda some 20 ‘invincible warriors’ exist , the Maruts , having
    a description of their physicality that would match this theme (where this
    same small group may be “the followers of Horus” in the Spells) ;
    the point is not ‘to complicate things’ please ,
    but we saw in the spells that the authors somewhat condescendingly speak
    to their serpent-race brothers , yet not ‘to Horus’ , and the reason may be
    the above … which in turn may have consequences for us :
    is this the core problem of the ‘4’ theme right now .. ?
 
                                                                    the ‘square’ — of Eden
 

… the ‘square form’ typically belongs to eden as opposed to the circular serpentine one of the matrix ; as depicted in the box being the Ark of the covenant , the floor of glass before the throne now as ‘tried (stolen) corner-stone’ and also in the form of the house as cube of the eden-realm ; cue Enoch , describing “the ribs of that cube as being on fire” >>

    [while curiously (or not) in the name QEBEHNF , one of the ‘sons of Horus’ ,
    the -qbeh does not mean “to libate” – that is but the exoteric meaning – but
    instead  “to cool-down” : namely ‘the stolen light from eden’ !]  ;
    and there is reason to assume that four fires ignite the four vertices ;
 
    Enoch continues ,
    describing “twelve portals as three portals in each side of the cube” through
    which winds blow inside , so that again we have the cardinal-points theme ;
    though strangely he also describes “occasional negative winds coming from
    certain portals” such as ‘frost’ — yet this may relate to the situation of the 
    south-land and NOT to the superior situation of the Eden garden ‘in’ it ;
    so that possibly we have a ‘square & 4 fires & 12 portals’ theme    
 
    is this what Esau saw ?                                                                                                                              [question ! :] 
    making it into ‘twelve pearly gates of a cube type jerusalem’ ?
    or from where he got the ‘cube’ idea ? what did he see ? while this raises an
    uncanny problem for ús : did we get “12 type lights from the moon” wrong ?
    were the “twelve stones in the square breatplate (-of the priest)” depicting
    these twelve portals ? combined with “the positioning of the 12 tribes around
    the sanctuary” while in the desert : the 4 x 3 portals .. ? 
    [yet why would our attribute relate to ‘the south-land’ (-of the cherubs) instead
    of the Eden garden itself ? or is there an overlapping in play ?] 
    perhaps the answer is in the tried cornerstone :
 
                                                                         the sea of glass
 

in the Spells called ‘the (evil-) SET stone’ they however still needed it to beautify their realm ; as “the stone / the one of / the (real-) soul”  which means ‘Jacob’  opposed to themselves ; and though the stolen stone does not appear to be in Adam’s gate , but outside it , it does link to their ‘moon-months’ just as the stone is an integral part of the eden-gate (‘moon’) ;

 
    Revelation 11 shows the restored situation
    (though corrupted) where “the seven Torches” again stand upon that floor 
    after thóse are rescued from having been kidnapped by the matrix ; as the
    seven that “maintain eden with their aspects” — and , important , probably
    ónly ‘the garden’ and not “the rest of the surrounding south-land” ,
    also because the latter seems to be the department of the four cherubs !

so if the seven torches as ‘fire’ taking care of the garden stand there then why not ‘four fires’  could burn at the edges of the stone as ‘the ribs of the cube’ , since what occurs IN the gate is a blueprint for the garden

 
    … we know that the stone is “the commanding creating one – by speech” ,
    so that the seven (!) torches with the female ‘fire attribute’ caused by the
    stone do not make it impóssible “that there are four fires on its edges” ;
    problem is that we need to find a similar concept in the Scroll ,
    — but behold : Ezekiel 28 shows “cherub + stone(s) + fire” in context of
    Tyre (mystery-Babylon) and ‘merchandise’ (stolen aspects) ; though it will
    be a hell of a job to restore that , we have a chance !
    then comes the second problem :
    if the stone commands , why can it not produce “the 12 type eden lights” ?
    or how — as we kept until now — does the gate (as moon) bring forth these
    twelve type lights , as gem-stones ? for other reasons the stone also must
    bring forth “a dimensional quality linked to ‘silver” , as another quality which
    the matrix desired to have (-where ‘gold (-dust)’ is linked to our Originals) ,
    and some Spells are posted about this subject ;
    then why not these ‘twelve type lights’.. ?
    would THAT be the meaning of “the breast-plate carrying twelve gems” ,
    as “the corner-stone bringing forth those twelve type lights” .. ?
 
    … so that the problem we still have ,                                                                                         [final problem :] 
    is “where then are shown those twelve portals (-in the cube)” since those
    cannot be part óf the stone — and the truth is “we don’t know yet” , even they
    must have appeared in the corrupt ’24 elders’ sections : in Revelation 5 when
    the Scroll is restored “these elders have vials full of the prayers of the saints”
    looking suspiciously much like the “prayers of the saints” in Rev.8 (-5) ,
    which was about ‘(Strange-) fire’ ! those 4 ?  
                                                                
    the Spells : four (stolen-) winds & fires
    … showing in chapters titled “the four winds” as stolen from Eden and brought
    to their matrix ‘to blow there’ (-in altered form) consequently linked to adding
    certain qualities to their realm ,
    and also the [pre-Hindu]  Rg-Veda describes something like ‘a giant tornado
    being sent down to collect the winds and bring them to their north’ – however
    also the scroll speaks about ‘Adam making storms’ (-there) , though ofcourse
    we need to review that chapter again ; just as the re-interpreting of the spells
    concerning this theme – for we can have overlooked certain aspects ;
 
    then there is a case to make about “four fires” :
    in the 5th Amduat hour while Râ (the goat in Daniel) is invading Eden as the
    lower register , this scene shows :

    where “the oval” is the eden-gate that is being invaded (-and destroyed) ,
    where to the left show “four heads with fires on top of them” : these are part of
    eden yet the text does not give enough information about ‘what’ these are ,
    and we cannot prove “that these fires burned at the corners of the stone” but
    that they are depicted ‘outside the oval’ – the eden gate – can suggest that they
    were “the four fires lighting the ribs of the eden cube” : either way these flames
    are important because shown as ‘heads’ (‘importance’) ; 
    next step ,
    in the book of the dead spell 137-a , a chapter called “the four flames” ,
    show “four fortresses (or ‘walls, or sides, or pylons, or ribs’) in the south, north, 
    west and east” in the context of “a ceased flame” – usually ‘of eden’ ; where at
    the end (=start) of the chapter “four flames” appear as TEKAU IV” containing
    the glyph -KA ‘to double’ , implying “now four matrix-flames” re-ignited after
    the eden one(-s) ceased ,

you see the “X + flame” to the left of ’54’ and the ‘north + fortress’ in top left of the depiction ; all of the context must be about ‘stealing of flames’ yet restoring the complex type BD texts isn’t easy :

    like with the Scroll we first need a workable idea about what it can have said 
    before even making an attempt to interpret the text …
 
    the four cherubs and the alleged ’24 elders’
    … as still in Revelation 4 , now lines 9-10     —
    9 has “and WHEN the four animals give paradise (etc)” , in 10 “THEN these
    twenty-four elders fall down” – suggesting a relation , yet not with some vague
    elders but ‘with their own attribute’ : suppose , as we so often have to re-invent
    what it can have said , “that the portals open for the beneficial winds”… ?
    wouldn’t that make sense ?
    these four cherubs , representing the south-land , being IN the throne room ,
    plead for the blessing of their land (-and creatures) , and therefore the breath
    of Life is entering their region .. ?
    [not alike – but akin to – the fruit of the tree of Life in the garden of Eden ?]  ;
    you see please how logical that could be ?
    curiously (or not) after that in 11 they méntion “the by you created things” ! ,
    where it probably wrote “for your given life to them , they will praise you” !
 
    so what is it with these alleged “twenty + four + elders” ?
    was it “ten + and two + portals” ? not “sitting” but instead “opening” ? 
    suppose , after the cherubs praised Him (-in 9) ,
        (10)
       “The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne , 
        and worship him that liveth for ever and ever , 
        and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,”
    as ,
    [=then]  – the – four=ten – and – twenty=twelve – elders=portals (PresbuterOs=Pylôn)    +
    b
    fall down=opened (?) (piptó=anaptyssô) ,
    c
    (for the-) (eden-) in view=life (?) – to sit=blow (?) (kathémai=epiginomai !)    +
    d
    on=across – the – thrones=land ; 
    e
    and – they worship – the – living one – for – ever – and – ever ,                              [compare a-d !] 
    f
    casting – their – crowns – before – the – throne ,                                    [our crowns in Zachariah ?] 
    … yes it’s unusual ,
    but does it not make very much Sense ?
    even the reason – ‘the one having life’ – is mentioned after He gives life !
    it also implies that Zachariah 6 ‘the (4) crowns’ are involved here , after
    the “FOUR ‘chariots’ left the mountain’ [=the matrix-gate]   ; again it is the
    same theme but it causes a headache how much we still need to do     —
    except if He be kind and the Legal understanding here is sufficient …
 
    Zech.6 (to us-) : ‘find the four fires’ (?)
    … likely not so said to us yet it may have been the intent    —
    we would not have to find “the four cherubs (-themselves)” since they show
    but perhaps ‘their (four-) attributes’ , corrupted in lines 11-14  where the
    crowns of gold (-for the 144 !) suspiciously much look like the crowns in Rev. ;

while the start of the chapter mentions     two (or ‘a double’) mountain of brass’     that can only be the concept in Spells        as “the island of the horizon” of Horus ,     where both ‘bulges with a sun’ carried     by both lions are “the double mount”      with Adam’s gate inside     [in the just posted PT both mountains     are ‘the shoulders of Horus’]  ;

    in previous wording no “ephah” was in their centre but Adam’s ‘matrix gate’ ,
    so that the “four + chariots” (1) must refer to “the four sons of Horus” even
    though we don’t know yet exactly what description was given to them ;
    or even if it described “four (stolen re-ignited) fires” ; 
    while in line 5 “the four spirits” may have been “the four fires” : point is that
    God hardly abuses the term ‘spirit’ (-ruch) for trivial things or objects , so that 
    the subject here may have been “flames” ;
    in next (5-7) “the subjects had gone forth to the north” (sic) while in line 8
    a distress is expressed about this situation ; in lines 10-11 ‘mystery-Babylon
    shows and said to us “take (-something)” followed by ‘the crowns’ section :
    how much is the chance ‘that we have to take back these four fires’ .. ?
            [sub :] 
           because the weird NEMT-boat shows in the (posted) PT spell about the
           stealing the attributes of the four cherubs, it may be the same as Osiris’ 
           weird NSHMT boat (‘invading eden’) as a glyph adaption / alteration ;
           so that it may relate to “the 4 NMST-crowns” appearing frequently
           and compare this Zechariah theme] 
 
    imagine that we could take back the crowns TO the four cherubs ,
    not because they are ; less than us’ (and I certainly do not feel that way) 
    but because ‘they kind of represent our ancestry’ ? in the sense that we 
    were created as pinnacle because of what happened in the south-land 
    (before Eve got tricked) .. ? 
    or phrased as thus : “that we came forth from these four cherubs”.. ?
    would that not be a reason , so to speak , to honour them — in the sense
    of them having represented the reason why wé became .. ?
    this makes “us” in fact “théir crowns” : since the superior always rules the
    less superior , represented by ‘a crown’ worn by the less superior ; 
    so that we must ask : are the ‘four fires’ the same as ‘the four crowns’ ?
    … would there be “a sequence of importance” here ,
    where in chapter 5 Christ undoes the sealed Scroll (-through us) , after
    which not only Eden will be restored but also “the surrounding southland” ,
    as the very (eden-) realm that is embedding the very garden ..?
 
    therefore perhaps you feel the same   —
    the four cherubs almost feel like “hurt living animals” that very much wait 
    the redemption of their (‘our’) type (eden-) realm , and again please that
    may be the reason why this very theme may have come up   —
    since we will do anything to also have them four cherubs restored  …
 

[may 9]                                                      CONTINUATION :
 

 
 
Harpocrates , “Horus the child” 
… does not appear in the Spells because it is a concept by the much later 
(Greek-) Ptolemaic period — the same one in which Ptolemy II became the

servant of Adam to start corrupting the sacred Scroll ! , yet for several reasons this ‘Horus the child’ concept should be valid and is extremely interesting for us in our problem of “did Horus get (steal) an eden body” ; ofcourse it is unclear why they would propagate a theme like this : perhaps an influx into Egypt  happened from ‘serpent-race type souls’ opposed to the ‘Ammon type souls’ that had ruled until that point ; to right , Horus in his gate-region as the double-lion , the ouroboros-symbol is not Egyptian but combined

with the ‘finger to (in) the mouth’ it must represent the concept of “eternal youth” 
however , the ‘placing the finger to the lips’ is an Egyptian concept in the Amduat
chapters and could mean “secrecy” – perhaps here intended as double meaning]  ; 
yet this “eternal youth” has a nefarious connotation :
 
the ‘Harpocrates’ comes from HERU P KHART’ yet is not just “Horus the Child” 
but in context reads “the animal-youth / (as) the root (-P) / (of) Horus” ;
the point is that this root ‘infant’ is Negative because related to Eden ,
where in the Spells most often anóther root for the ‘youth theme’ is used ; 

to right , ‘infant’ KHART’ , and you see ‘the swallow’ meaning ‘evil’ ; the instances where ‘a goddess’ shows were written by egyptians that were not (so) aware of their own religion  — because hieroglyphs exist as clusters of meanings it is related to KHER “below”  in Spells always meaning to ‘Eden’ so  that he swallow is ‘correctly’ added here ; where the glyph KHART’ should read :

‘the infant / (of) the (eden-) hand / (of) speech / (for) the belly” where that ‘hand’
refers to “the eden gate region” , the “speech” to “creation by Eden” and ‘belly’ 
to “the matrix gate region” of Horus himself , 
hence the Spells often say “I have the magic in my belly” meaning that the 
sorcery of the matrix (‘transforming & doubling etc’) happens in his gate region ;
 
the Shemsu Hor , ‘the followers of Horus’ 
… there is much confusion about this almost mythological group – some think
that these were “kings of the bloodline of Horus , that ruled on earth before 
their offspring as the Egyptian dynasties came to be” — but that is all not true :
it were “serpent-race-souls that , like Horus , obtained (stolen) an eden-body”
just as the Rg-Veda ‘Maruts bodyguards’ mentioned previously ;
in Edfu their attribute must be “a harpoon” (see below) so that they were not
the ‘workers of iron’ – through the wrongly interpreted glyph MESENu – 
which opens up two lines in Genesis 4 :
there never was no ‘Tubal-Cain’ as the forefather of smiths’ but it was 
about THIS theme , some of the serpent-race obtaining an eden-body !
 

Horus harpooning a hippo  where the ‘hippo’ that was seen as Negative represents Eden and more specific “physical aspects” – which  cóuld point to ‘our Originals’  [in the Noah page we mentioned hippos but not to be confused with its meaning in the Spells]  ; it supports the concept that Horus stole an eden-type body so that it MUST appear in Pyramid Texts [update : bingo !!]