no ‘lad got better at the 7th hour’ but ‘the 144 go in the 7th week’ , as +49d linking back to Passover [as the closing of posted John 4] [version ; 2024-08aug.01] |
theme
… ofcourse this is dangerous to do but we’ve no other option , or instead of
somewhere next Tuesday we will face another four months or even lónger :
what if not “40 days” was intended but “49 days” after the feast of Weeks ?
we’ve always kept ’40’ since it appears everywhere – as ‘judgment season’ –
but what if that judgment season was included in a total of 49 days … ?
so that we would have “Passover > 49d > Weeks > 49d > our date” ?
the interpretation of this chapter shows this ‘mirror time frame’ is póssible
because at the closing she appears to link back to ‘Passover’ …
KJV : ‘the lad indeed recovered since the 7th hour yesterday’
… John 4:45-54 is the story that we are asked to believe :
a panicking king having a sick boy goes to Jesus to ask for healing , where
he is told to first ‘believe’ , then return to his son that will be made to live :
and once at home he discovers how his son had improved from the same
moment that Jesus spoke those words the day before” :
possible .. ? – sure ; credible .. ? – not really …
Esau’s “plausible deniability” stories
… we learned the hard way how in-cre-dible corrupted all NT became also
and looking at this story with healthy scepsis shows another ‘flat’ story :
— it tries “to prove His divinity” which is absurd ,
the same childish as “the water into wine at Kana” [-the corrupted scroll]
or the “rebuking the storm” [-whatever that may have been about] :
whén doing a miracle it always connected to a deeper meaning like the
resurrection of Lazarus that pointed to the rise of the 144 ;
— the ‘type miracle’ is soothsayer-like , see above ;
— Esau too much pushed the story as “the miracle right after Kana” in lines
46 & 54 which for us is almost proof that it was NOT , ofcourse ;
overlaying the section upon your & our present situation :
… and here it gets interesting —
— searching for the term ‘seven’ the “seventh + hour” showed up here
— in combination with “healed (-at the seventh hour)” ;
— it follows after the alleged ‘Samaritan woman’ story which was about us ,
see pinned log , and perhaps this was the closing of that theme ;
where ‘sick + son(-s)’ is a rather accurate description of our situation !
so that considering the above the following buildup appeared :
buildup
showing : interpretation :
(45)
something is accepted + feast scroll accepted at Weeks (?)
(46)
a son being sick 144 being sick [‘polluted’] (?)
(47)
please heal the son at point of death as you & we the past four weeks (?)
(48)
someone does not believe the anti-144 rejected the scroll (?)
(49)
(come-) before the child die since they did nót die [as reason] (?)
(50)
one believing the spoken word others believing the words will be added (?)
(51)
meeting ‘servants’ servants is the Cush theme : also added (?)
(52)
yesterday at the 7th hour he got better the 7th week will be our date (?)
(53)
a link between today & yesterday Passover > 49d > Weeks > 49d > our date (?)
the ‘at point of death – then be made alive’ : linking to Passover (?)
… still pondering it but a most intriguing point here —
this has not shown in other chapters until now and the buildup is rather solid :
the “remnant being tested” when the Spirit we hád elsewhere but that it causes
a ‘point of death’ we had not : where at the end of the section that is anulled by
the “be made alive again” and that “at a date” which indeed are aspects that
belong to Passover : IF line 53 has intended to refer back to 52 ;
therewith the same time creating the time frame of 49 days > 49 days ;
now please – we need to see in which instances indeed “40” was meant as a
time of judgment , and places where the intent may have been ’49’ ; yet isn’t
here ‘the profound connection to His resurrection próof of the 49th’.. ?
you understand please ?
49d > Weeks < 49d
… though not exáctly a mirror , certain events in the 49 days leading to Weeks
either are repeated or ‘undone’ in the second set of 49 days ; where Weeks
itself appears to be the centre point :
— the Spirit was sent in the first 49
and is removed (-also ‘from earth’ !) in the second 49 ,
— where she was sent at the day of Weeks , and now removed since Weeks ,
— Christ dies & was resurrected & ascended in the first 7 days of the first 49 ,
where our version of that seems to be mainly in the last 7 days of the last 49 ;
and perhaps we could find more to add to these ,
that could support the ‘mirrored 49 days’ we so desperately need at this point
proof of the 49d > Weeks < 49d elsewhere (?)
A) [Mt.12, Lk.11 :] the ‘seven + other + spirits’ : ‘seven + more + weeks’ ?
… perhaps it appears a bit chaotic to place it here
but because now we are with the possible “connection with Passover” anyway , while it’s
not sure that this example will get an own page since it is hopelessly corrupted as well ;
these are the lines :
“When (1) the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he (b) walketh through dry places,
seeking rest, and findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into my house from
whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth [it] empty, swept, and garnished.
Then goeth he, and taketh with himself (c) seven other spirits more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there: and (d) the last [state] of that man is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.”
now ,
this section looks very much like our ‘sick son’ theme here – just very much abridged
while forced into an already decided narrative , right : it’s another “plausible deniability”
while Esau penned some false pretext as “Beelzebub casting out demons” in the Lk.11 one ,
yet both Lk.11 & Mt.12 contain his “men of Nineveh will be judged” which is as we saw about
the anti-144 theme , where in Luke it even directly precedes this : so we’re close !
text :
(1) holy + spirit + gone + from remnant – restored in line 46 ,
(2) they will be walking + through dry places – as in line 46 here ,
(3) yet seven + more + weeks – as in line 52 here ,
(4) “something latter referring back to the former” – as in line 53 here !
now ,
you see the same construct here how (4) links back to (3) , but in this case it’s hard to fill in
the proper terms because ‘the form’ was mutilated : the mentioned “last” (-eschatos) may
have been the “at the end of (-the seven weeks)” as in THIS chapter ;
conclusion :
though horribly corrupted it can have been the mirror of this John 4 section ;
B) [Mt.24 :] the flight not in ‘winter’ nor on ‘a sabbath’ :
… though we just did that page this closing line was too difficult ;
however – suppose that He used similar phrasing as in the above two examples so far ,
perhaps the Mt.24 line was a very mutilated form of the same ,
where “winter” (-cheimón) [shown as -cheimonos] was “end” (-eschatos) — close ! —
followed by the word “Weeks / Sabbath” (‘as the same root’) ,
where “seventh” (-hebdomos) was replaced and swapped by his “not” negation ;
now ,
that this possible line would show ánd in Mt.12 ánd Mt.24 is no disqualification of one
since – if true – He would have repeated the phrase , while Esau has so insanely cut
and pasted everything that it can have ended up as a doublet – yet no less valid !
conclusion :
not as useful as the other two examples – but supporting both ;
C) [2 Tim.4 :] [not done yet]
… first half of the chapter appears to be the same theme as this John 4 section
because of certain phrases used & the overall buildup , then the chapter goes haywire ,
and curiously – duh – at the end in 21 ‘(come in-) winter’ shows , compare Mt.24 ,
and in line 20 even “some dude is sick” (!) ; yet we’ll need lesser corrupted chapters
sub :
… about “the most dangerous three weeks for Esau” from his ‘Tammuz 17′ [forty days
after Weeks] closing with his “ninth of Av” : not only because our ’49th’ would fall in it
but don’t put it past him that he wanted to show “the 40th + 9” day …
closing :
this is all we could find for now .. let’s hope it’s true for so much depends upon it …
for you your Majesty … please always forgive your obliterated sons & daughters
John 4 (45-54 : closing)
[45 :
important is “the feast of Weeks” here as intro to “the seventh week” in line 52 :]
45
(a) “Then when he was come into Galilee,
(b) the Galilaeans received him,
(c) having seen all the things that he did
(d) at Jerusalem at the feast:
(e) for they also went unto the feast.
45
…………
(b)
the – galileans=Father (‘no match’) – (will) accept (G1209) – him (‘the scroll’) +
c
(as-) (the-) see=restored (?) (heôrakortes=katartizô , as shown) – all=scroll (aNta=biblioN) +
d
which – he=they worked +
e
[w/ swapped :]
in=at – [..] the – feast of – jerusalem=Weeks (hierousaluma=sabbaton , excuse-word) ;
note :
… we first had “which they had declared” (poieó=phrazô) but that would work confusing here
since the line runs on and would suggest “declared it at the feast of Weeks” ;
[new line :]
f
[=but] – they=when – the – feast – (will have) come , [line runs on :]
[46 : “some entity is ill” :]
46
(a) “So Jesus came again into Cana of Galilee, where he made the water wine. [< invented]
(b) And there was a certain nobleman, whose son was sick at Capernaum.”
46
then – [+he] (will) came=withdraw +
b
[..] the – [..] galilee=holy (galilaias=hagios) – cana=spirit (kana=pneuma)
c
(from-) the – jesus=sons (iésous=yhios) of – again=Ishral [or ‘remnant of’]
d
where=for reason – to does=test (?) (poieó=dokimasia) +
e
(the-) water=hearts (hudór=kardia) of – wine=all ; [d-e : we had this in another chapter]
f
and=because – king=unrighteous (-ones) (basilikos=adikos) +
g
(will have) be=joined – certain=themselves – whose=unto – the – sons
h
(as-) (the-) sick=purging (astheneó=kathairô) – in – (that-) kapernaum=season (?) ;
[kapernaoum=kairos]
47
“When he heard that Jesus was come out of Judaea into Galilee, he went unto him,
and besought him that he would come down, and heal his son: for he was at the point of death.”
47
(and-) this=when – that=the – jesus=sons – (will) hear=see + [b : next intro to line 52]
b
(that-) [+I] (will) [+nót] (have) returned – out=on – the – judea=day of – [..] galilee=acceptance ,
c
[+they] (will) came=search – toward=again – (the-) him=scroll (auton=biblion)
d
and – ask – Him – that=when – he=I (will) descend=return (‘close’)
e
and=so that – [+he] (would) heal (?) – [..] him=their – son=soul
f
he=that (will) be at the point of – [..] death ; [no new subline so ‘for’ deleted]
48
“Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.”
48
then – the – jesus=sons – (will) said=understand [..] [next : very tricky syntax :]
b
that if=the (-ones) – no=who – (will have) see=rejected – (the-) signs=scroll of – [..] miracles=God
c
(are being) believe=removed – no=from – not=them ; +
49
“The nobleman saith unto him, Sir, come down ere my child die.”
49
(as-) the – king=unrighteous (-ones) (basilikos=adikos)
b
(that will) [+not] (have) said=believed – his – toward=words (pros=logos)
c
(because-) [+their] ere=soul (prin=psuchê) – (did) lord=not – come=want +
d
to die – (to-) my=her – child=flesh (paidion=sarx) ;
50
“Jesus saith unto him, Go thy way; thy son liveth.
And the man believed the word that Jesus had spoken unto him, and he went his way.”
50
[start at 2nd word :]
him=therefore – [+he] (will) said=search
b
(the-) (ones that) (did) go=die (POreuou=aPOthanein) – the=unto – jesus=it
c
(as) the – you=righteous – son=souls – (that will) live ,
d
[first the subline :]
and – [..] he (will) went=add – jesus=them +
e
(to-) the – human=remnant – believing – the – words – which – [+he] spoke – (to-) him=them ; +
[next 51 :
interestingly ‘servants’ reminds of the Cush ones :]
51
“And as he was now going down, his servants met him, and told [him] , saying, Thy son liveth.”
51
[=and] – already=also – he (will) go down=add – (to-) him=them – his – servants (‘the Cush ones !’)
b
(that-) meet=waited (?) – (for-) him – and=but – (were) report=imprisoned (?) ,
c
saying : [..] [+he] (does) [+not] live=love – [..] your=my – son=soul ; [< as in Obadiah ?]
note :
… there is no word ‘Cush’ in Strong’s – likely because Esau erased it from texts ,
but perhaps “servants” + the line “he does not love me” would be enough to search prophets .. ? ;
52
“Then enquired he of them the hour when he began to amend.
And they said unto him, Yesterday at the seventh hour the fever left him.”
52
then – beside=the – them=sons (‘you & we’) (auton=yhios) – (will have) search=understood (?) +
b
the – hour=day – in – which – he=I (will) had=gather – (the-) better=remnant (kompsoteron=hypoleimma) ,
c
and (that-) – they (will have) to said=endure (?) [..] +
d
that=until – the yesterday=end (?) (echthi=eschatos) of – the seventh – hour=week + (?)
e
(since-) (the-) him=scroll (aton=biblion) – (was) leave=accepted (aphiémi=apodechomai) +
f
(by-) [..] fever=God (puretos=theos) ;
[next : but what is the exact intent .. ? making a direct link back to 52 ? :]
53
“So the father knew that [it was] at the same hour, in the which Jesus said unto him,
Thy son liveth: and himself believed, and his whole house.”
53
then=because – the – Father – (will have) knew=reckoned (?) – (the-) that=time (?) +
b
[..] that=from – the – hour=day – in – which – [+he] said=resurrected (?) – him=me ,
c
(as-) the – jesus=day (?) – that – [+he] (will) make to live – your=their – son=soul ,
d
and=when – he=I (will) believe=gather – he=them +
e
and – the – whole (or ‘completed’?) – [..] house=remnant .
end
[54 : added by Esau to make sure that we would NOT recognize the above text :]
54
“This [is] again the second miracle [that] Jesus did, when he was come out of Judaea into Galilee.”