no ‘one woman with seven men’ but mirror of the Jn.4 section [version ; 2024-08aug.2-3] |
theme
… after the alleged “sick boy of the king”, only appearing in John 4 ,
the question was how Esau may have corrupted that theme in other gospels
and this one appeared to be a good candidate : similar key words of John 4
also show here like “seven”, “child (-less) + death”, “last” and a similar
bizarre term as ‘king’ which is ‘Sadducees’ here where both suspiciouly much
resemble the root ‘unrighteous one’ — so that it was worth a try whether
this section may have been another version of the ’49 days theme’
however ,
like this alleged “seven men of one woman” appears in three gospels also
the alleged (!) story of “seven breads and two fishes” does , and at first sight
it is difficult to decide which one we need here — so that the (number of-) the
available key words combined with a restored (!) line buildup is important ;
leaving “the 7 loaves & 2 fishes” as candidate for “the 7th & 49th year”
which is anóther important aspect of the restored scroll theme
main theme here : ‘resurrection’ !
… in John 4 we interpreted the closing as “I am raised from the dead”, right ,
so how much is the chance that Esau indeed saw this there : if his other
version in this Luke 20 almost centers around that aspect .. ?
the buildup of Luke 20
#1
‘the evil vineyardists’ is : scroll gets corrupted + KJV
not “some master left for a long time”
but “the scroll was left by itself so that the Esau sons saw their chance” ;
not “some servant sent to get fruits , but he was beaten”
but “the (1500 AD-) fathers compose the KJV” ,
and not “an only son sent , which the evil workers killed”
but “the sons of Ishral that will need to die before they understand the text” ;
#2
‘the tax penny given to Ceasar’ is : ‘the sealed scroll given to us’
key here is the term “given” and that TWICE (‘given to Ceasar , or to God’)
just as in prophets “first the scroll is given to the scholars – then to you & we”
where “tax + penny” ofcourse is “the sealed + scroll” ;
#3
this ‘1 woman having 7 men’ is : ‘the anti-144 & the 49th day’
please see text how that worked out ;
main problem : cut & pasted theme sections :
… the entire theme of ‘the restored scroll’ is rather long and you see how
Esau turned one section into ‘a parable’ and another one into nonsense
quasi-spiritual ‘problems’ – yet all were part of the same ongoing theme ,
and as shown in the above breakdown even in proper séquence here ;
however ,
becáuse the theme is so extensive “other sequences” may be possible ,
or better said : the one teaching about ‘the restored scroll’ may be a type
general overview – where the other teaching about the restored scroll
may include “certain details” (-where for example this ‘anti-144 theme’
or ‘the 7th & 49th year’ can be considered “a specific aspect”, right) ,
in fact it appears to us ,
as if each Gospel contained two major ‘restored scroll’ sections
as a general overview and a more detailed one , and in another life
we can try to categorize which section belonged to either of both ;
therefore John 4 remains ‘the original’ for us :
… again please – the storyline of John 4 was much more to the truth
and therefore ‘she came out the best’ , yet that doesn’t imply that this
section is ‘lesser’ : the function of this one is ‘to suppórt John 4’
per the concept of ‘cross reading’ is most important (-where verses in
other books will support the interpretation of a certain section) and also
here ‘the keywords + the restored buildup’ is the crucial proof ;
therefore the text here is leaning heavily upon the John 4 section
Luke 20 (27-38)
[start 26 :
akin to the John 4 start very likely about “the feast of Weeks” :]
26
” And they could not take hold of his words [‘declaration’] + before + the people:
and + they marvelled at + his + answer, and held their peace.”
26
[this sounds like :]
…………………………. declare (-it) (‘scroll’) – before – [..] people=God (démos=theos) ,
b
and – [+he] (will) marvel=accept (thaumazó=dechomai) – [..] his=their – answer=work
c
[+at] (the feast of-) hush=Weeks (?) (SigaÓ=SabbatOn , phonetically ? ;
27
“Then came to [him] certain of the Sadducees,
which deny that there is any resurrection; and they asked him,”
27
[=yet] (there will be-) – the – sadducees=unrighteous (-ones) (saddoukaios=adikos !!) +
b
(that will have) come=joined themselves (proserchomai=proskollaô) – (to-) any=them (‘sons’) +
c
(will) deny=knów + [< probably w/ swapped with e) below !]
d
(the-) resurrection=scroll (anastasiN=bilblioN) of – (the-) no=words of – is=God (eimi=theos) ,
e
(but-) (will have) asked=rejected – it ;
28
“Saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man’s brother die, having a wife,
(c) and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife,
(d) and raise up seed unto his brother.”
28
(for-) (the-) teachers=unrighteous (-ones) (didaskalos=adikos) – (will) say [-to themselves] :
b
(the-) moses=sons (móusés=yhios) – wrote – us=falsehood (hemin=pneuma+) ,
c
if=for – [+they] die=reject (‘close’) – (the-) any=scroll of – (the-) brothers=fathers , [KJV]
d
have=saying (?) – (it is-) (the-) woman=wicked one (?) ; [< can be anything …]
e
and=wherefore – this=they – (will be) die=judged (‘close’) – (by-) childless=God (ateknos=theos)
f
because – [+they] (do) [+not] – get=worship – [..] his=our – brother=King (Christ) ;
note :
… the above “justification by them” does not show in John 4 , perhaps Esau deleted it there ,
but is an integral part of this theme in prophets ;
therefore :
[needing new theme as next line :]
g
[+therefore] the=in – and=those – woman=days – (it) (will) raise up=come to pass +
h
(that-) [..] his – brother=holy (adelphos=hagios) – issue=spirit (sperma=pneuma) + [runs on :]
29
“There were therefore seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and died without children.”
29
(will be) were=withdrawn – (from-) (the-) seven=sons of – [..] brothers=Ishral , [2-Tier]
b
and=as – the – first=season (protos=kairos) of – getting=testing , +
c
[swapped :]
(in which-) [+their] woman=soul – (will be-) childless=at the point of – dying ; [John 4]
[30-31-32 : moved to below
“And the second took her to wife, and he died childless.
And the third took her; and in like manner the seven also: and they left no children, and died.
Last of all the woman died also.”
[33 : deleted , see below]
next 34 :
note how KJV 34 + 35 is a juxta : that will remain so , just with 1 line added inbetween ;
and how Esau sáw “a removal” but made it “a joining” ! :]
34
“And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:”
34
[=then] – (the-) said=sons (‘you & we’) of – them=Ishral – (will) said=understand
b
(that-) the – jesus=unrighteous (-ones) (iésous=diakos)
c
(that will have-) marry=rejected (gameó=antilegó , line 27) + [read : ‘at Weeks’]
d
the – sons=words (yhios=logos) of – [..] world=God (aionos=theos)
e
(will be) given in marriage=removed (gamisko=methistêmi) – (from-) and=them , + [runs on :]
note :
unsurprisingly the mirror line Mt.22:29 has ,
Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. ;
32
[Mt.22:27 : same :]
“Last of all the woman died also.
32
last=for reason (-that) – [+they] (would-) all=not – die – and=unto – [..] (their-) woman=flesh ;
part I b
now the ones ádded to the 144 :
35
“But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world,
and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:”
35
[=but] – the – ones (that will be) accounted worthy +
b
to attain – (to-) (the-) world=sons (or ‘remnant’) of – that=Ishral , [‘the ultimate 144’]
c
and=as – the=they – (that-) (did) die (‘verb now’) +
d
(to-) [..] from=their (own-) resurrection=flesh (anastasis=sarx) , [c-f : akin to John 4 :]
e
(will be) given in marriage=added – (to-) – neither=them + [now a juxta of 3-e :]
f
(that-) (are) marry=confessing – [+His] nor=words ; + [so , ‘added to the core group’]
note :
.. last part as “unto these ones-proclaiming the words of-him he-shall-be-adding” ;
[this 36 may be next :
but then we need “the Cush ones” line (as in John 4) here ;
problem : line has been cut up in sub lines turning it unreadable & illogical :]
36
(a) “Neither can they die any more: (b) for they are equal unto the angels;
(c) and are the children of God, (d) being the children of the resurrection.”
36
for=while – neither=God – (will) can=complete – still=his – die=remnant (apothanein=hypoleimma)
b
(with-) like + angels = his + servants – for=that – are=said – (in-) [+their] and=heart (kai=kardia) :
c
they=he (does) – sons=not – are=love – [..] god=me ;
d
“being the children [=sons] of the resurrection”
(that-) (will) become – the – resurrection=delivered ones (?) (anastaseos=ekdotos) +
e
(out-) of (the-) sons=nations (-of heathens) (yhios=démos) ; [or ‘of Cush’ ?]
note :
… in John 4 we only had place for “prisoners” ;
the phrase typically used for them is “the delivered ones” ! ;
part I c
closing : only ‘the seventh month’ theme still :
[remained lines :]
30-31
a) “And the second took [..] to wife, b) and he died childless.
c) And the third took her; d) and in like manner the seven also:
e) and they left no children, and died.”
a)
and=then – the – second=sons – (will) got=understand – [.. 1x ..] +
b)
and=that – [+they] (will) this=need – to die=endure – (the-) childless=trial (ateknos=dokimion) +
c)
[empty – Esau’s required repeat of a]
d)
(until-) (the-) like manner=end (hósautós=eschatos) of – [de kAi hOi] – seven(-th) ; [goto 37 :]
e [sAbbatOn] [< as ‘week’]
“and they left no children, and died.” [< deleted]
… deleted since we can do nothing with these words , while the line continues :
[not used : 33 :]
“Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.”
[next 37 :
leaning heavily upon the John 4 line :]
37
(a) “Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God
(b) of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.”
37
[=because] – that=like – [+he] (will have) raised [+me] – (from-) [..] death , [‘implies a date’]
b
and=also – (the-) moses=Father (móusés=patros) +
c
(will) shewed=reckon – [..] the – bush=time (batos=kairos) +
c
as=since – he (will have) says=accepted + [so , ‘at the day of Weeks’]
d
the – lord=scroll (kuriON=bibliON , as shown) – (from-) the – god=sons (theos=yhios) ; + [runs on :]
e
“of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.”
… most probably Esau’s additions as his grocery list , also because the line continues :
and after his ‘Moses’ diversion he had to find some nonsense quote to have it make Sense ;
[closing 38 :
also John 4 ends with “and all of them will live” :]
38
“For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.”
38
[=then] – god=I – [..1x..] – (will) is=gather – dead=them (‘you & we’) – but=and – (the-) living=remnant ,
b
[swapped :]
(as-) all of – for=them – (that will be-) (made-) alive – (by-) him=God (autos=theos) .
end and end of section – as John 4
