theme : Christ’s ascension 
 at Weeks (49th day) hours
before Pentecost (50th day)
 now as the Great Jubilee

[version ; 2023-05may29]




               … the ‘upper room’ appears to have been a regular meeting place 
               and attested is ‘the day after the crucifixion’ ; yet ‘the farewell banquet’ (see page) 
               happened in that room right before  the Ascension while right after that  the disciples
               returned to that same room – and ‘Pentecost’ started : so what is the connection ?
               however , Esau tried to obfuscate especially the last chain of events  — 
               perhaps because we need to know or declare  the Date that we go … ?
               either way : the connection with the Great Jubilee appears 100% solid now ,
               and also important because ‘the 6th seal’ – when we go – and ‘the 7th seal’ as the
               arrival and reunion in tsiun must follow eachother in quick succession ….  


suggested timeline of Ascension – Pentecost : within 24 hrs :

a)  event : “the farewell supper”  (the alleged ‘bread & wine’ and see page)
               –  in the upper room
               –  late afternoon (?)
               –  explaining the disciples how they will be restored when the sons will
                    (including the Isaiah Jubilee quote)
b)  event : “the Ascension” (-same event as the alleged ‘transfiguration’)
               –  at mt. of olives , after leaving the upper room
               –  early evening (-before 6 PM ?)
               –  what was said : ‘just a blessing’ is the most probable , but Acts 2 (line 3) adds the 
                    promise that the Spirit will be given – however not mentioning any timeframe of that !
c)  event : “Pentecost”
               – back in the same upper room 
               – after 6 PM (?)
               – probably : ‘Peter’ – because of  the Spirit – is quoting Joel 2 about their restoration
                    (and it’s assumable that the Spirit gave him that quote , since they were not awáre of
                    what the prophets have said ! , and as a confirmation of the banquet theme)
per C)
‘back in the upper room’ :

– that “the disciples were gathered there when Mary Magdalene brought the resurrection news”
   is rather consistent and sounds credible , as the same room where the Farewell Supper was held ;
   however ,
   Acts 1-2 and John 20 connect the room with the Ascension and Pentecost :
John 20
[allegedly happening after Mary Magdalene was the first one to see the risen Christ :] 19 
“Then the same day at evening, being the first [day] of the week, when the doors were shut  
where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst,  
and saith unto them, Peace [be] unto you.”  
[20-21] 22
“And when he had said this, he breathed on [them], and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:”   
now ,
      — this very much sounds like Acts 1-2 (though both still are corrupted !) ,
      — both lines suggest that Pentecost was very close to the Ascension
            (since line 22 can ofcourse never follow right after the rising from the tomb !) ,
          strengthening the case that line 19 was “the returning back to the same room”, as c) ;
      — 19 is interesting here ,
            saying “the same day at evening” : what if that was an original line ?
      — the ‘concordances’ claim
            that Christ gave the Spirit in a symbolic way here – since the real event happened later – 
            but Christ never played around so that argument is simply (-another) cringe ;
Acts 1 (-2) : [taken together because the Joel quotes of 2 belong to 1 , see Joel 2 page] 
[after Christ ascended :] 
“Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem  
a sabbath day’s journey.  And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room …….” 
here ,
      — why Esau wrote “is a day’s journey” is unclear : geographically it is not true , while the people
           were waiting at the foot of the hill after He raised Lazarus (see ‘triumphal entry’ page) ;
           ‘sabbath + having + way’ can have been “sabbath + evening + the same” ,
            since the 49th day indeed fell on a sabbath – say , until 6 PM ;
            moreover ,
            it may well have written : (12) “and they went from the mount of Olives back to Jerusalem.
            (13) “and on the same + day of + (the feast of-) weeks they went into the upper room ….” ,
            namely “as the 49th day” since ‘sabbath’ is also “weeks” in Greek ! — and see part II ;
      — once in the upper room , “the disciples with the women” (14) ,
            it says “and they were all with one accord (-in prayer)……” (same 14) , the SAME phrase
            as Acts 2:1 having “they were all with one accord” : so Esau cut the Acts 1:14 line there ! 
            because WHY would it take “several more days (-until the Spirit came down)” ?
            that is totally illogical even from a continuity point of view …
     —  and it makes sense ,
            that only at this point the term ‘Pentecost’ appears – and not before ! , see part II ;

conclusion :
… there’s a strong case for the Ascension happening at ‘the 49th day’ and Pentecost ‘the 50th’ 
where both events themselves can have happened within a timespace of possibly just hours ;
important for us insofar our ascension  is linked to the (Great-) Jubilee (50) ,
while a second important aspect is
that ‘the 6th seal’ (ascension) and ‘7th seal’ (arrival in tsiun) are also virtually at the same time

part II
phrasings at ‘the Transfiguration’ [=the Ascension]

… the previous attempt was to try establish our date at “(the last day of-) Unleavened” ,
and though we knów ofcourse that this ‘date problem’ is the only (!) remaining tricky problem
and that we need a solid context to support  any mentioned timeframes (which are always unsure) ,
it appears that the Great Jubilee is much móre solid – contextually – as Unleavened
per B) :
              the ‘feast of Weeks’ — the 49th day 
              if then the Ascension was right at “the 49th day” – just before Pentecost as the 50th —
              meaning that for the Ascension ‘the feast of weeks’ (or ’49’) was used as time indication !  
              what could it have said in , for example , the next line of Matthew as intro to the Ascension ? :
Mt. 17
“And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother … (etc)”
here ,
— we’ve read ‘Unleavened’ because of the mentioned “… after 6 days” ,
      but suppose that ‘the 49th day’ is valid : did it write after=at the days=feast of six=weeks” ? ,
      where ‘day’ (he-mera) was ‘feast’ (he-orté) and ‘six’ (hex) was ‘weeks’ (sabbath) aka ‘seven’ ?   
Mk. 9
”     And after six days Jesus taketh [with him] Peter, and James, and John ….. (etc)” ,
but that’s a verbatim copy so we can’t use this one ;
Lk. 9 : 28 has “… eight + days…” ;
               btw : what was said at the ‘transfiguration’ must have been the theme at the Farewell Banquet
                concerning the theme of the disciples being restored when the sons will arrive ;


part III
the timing of the Farewell Banquet

… all the above means that we need to check the timing again :
per A) :
‘the Goodbye banquet’ : [time + theme we established now — just before the Ascension] 
[intro to the Banquet :] 
Lk. 22
“Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.”
“[=then] – came – the – day=feast (he-mera=he-orté) of – [..] unleavened=Weeks (azymos=sabbath)
on – which – it (was) necessary – (for-) passover=Christ (pasCHa=CHristos)      +
to (be) killed=ascend (thuó=anabainô) ;                                                                   [it used ‘killed’ : not ‘sacrificed’]

… the roots are close enough ;
while in this same chapter line 39 has “.. then He and the disciples went up to the mount of Olives” ,
in this case “because the Ascension would be next” 
[since we cannot establish that they were also ‘in that room just before the night of betrayal’ – right ?] ;
but now look at John 13 ! :
Jn. 13 
[intro to the Banquet :] 
“Now before the feast of the passover,  
when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, …”
that’s a bingo , right ,
[=now] , before=at (!) – the – feast (!) of – [..] passover=Weeks (pAScha=SAbbath) ,
(when-) [..] Jesus – knew – that – the – hour – came – that – he (was) to depart – out of – [..] this – world,

… not only does it have “feast” here
but even the related event literally mentioned !
[never mind how Esau glued different events within this banquet]  ;
here can be used “depart” instead of “ascend” because it adds ‘from where’ ;
Mk. 14
[has a double corruption :] (a)   “And the first day of unleavened bread,  
(b)    when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him …. (etc)”
here ,
and=at – the – first=last – day of – [..] unleavened=Weeks , 
when – [..] passover=Christ – (was) to (be) killed=ascend ,                                                 [as in Luke 22 above]

here ,
the “Weeks” can be understood as “all the 7 weeks – and the last day of them” ;
yet the ‘the’ (before Weeks) may have been “(the-) feast” (TOn=heOrTé) , one can never be sure ;
          line 28 is also peculiar :
          “But after that I am risen, I will go before you into Galilee.”
          ofcourse we knew it is nonsense yet now it makes sense :
          “and after I will have risen , I will go=send before=unto you the galilee=Spirit” 
and finally
Mt. 26
“Now the first [day] of the [feast of] unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus …. (etc)” ,
… but see the above ones ;

possibly : 1 Corinthians 16

“Upon the first [day] of the week let every one of you lay by him in store,  
as [God] hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.”   

now ,
we just DID that one – not so long ago , see page , because she mentions ‘Pentecost’ (line 8) ,
and though line 1 still must be correct , as intro , we had this 2 as “restore the scroll for 3 years” 
because we had to make SOME buildup , right (sue us grin) ,
though it is ofcourse possible that Paul hád mentioned those “three years” in ‘a’ previous chapter 
(and how would we know when at least 8 chapters of 1 Corinthians are ghostwritten ..?) ;
but concerning this theme ,
our key phrases here are “the first=last – day of – Weeks …. he [=Christ] will come to gather(..) [+them]”
while this is what we had , and final part of 2 matches the KJV idea :
in (‘during’) three years the sons will restore the scroll ,
and they will have discovered in it (‘scroll’)
that when they will have understood it , they will be gathered ;

but now as ,
[=at] – (the-) first=last [day] of – Weeks , each=after – (the-) beside=third (par=treis) – you=year
self=when – [+they] (will have) place=restored – (the-) store=scroll (thesaurizON=bibliON) 
(in) which – that=God – (will have made) – [..] ever=them – to succeed ,                           (?)
no=the – when=Lord – (will) come – [..] to be=gather – (the-) collections=remnant (line 1 in page) ;

therefore , 
perhaps not ‘Pentecost’ mentioned in line 8 was the key term — but this one ,
because what theme still can have been said – concerning ‘Pentecost’- after this ?
was it repeating the intended timeframe like “He will tarry until Pentecost” ?
or even “they will come to ephesus=tsiun at the pentecost=Jubilee” … ?