Lk.16 : no ‘Lazarus & rich man’ 
  but God is still hurt & owing
for what Adam did at that tree
[final theme of the scroll] 
[suggesting a Firstfruits date] 
[alleged ‘parables’ series] 

[2024-01jan.27-30] 

 
amazing page ,
where our ‘recompence’ theme is supported by
unique phrases not yet found elsewhere in NT ;
do please see the intro before the fulltext (here)

… this important theme rapidly becomes more clear —
we knew how that ‘tree of good & evil’ is still working
against us even though it was being represented by
the cross so that Christ legally defeated that event ;
but behind all of this something élse is in play still :
as ‘Adam’s rejection of God’ — as an unresolved
problem which God is still holding against us ….
 
 
“but he did not cry out , saying :
Father God , have mercy upon me ,
because I transgressed against you”
                (this Luke 16 section)

though we – as Jacob souls – had no part in that first
sin it greatly affected us , and similarly He considers 
the hurtful rejection of Him by Adam as ‘a family-tree 
matter’ that remained unresolved until now — so that
He desires recompence from you & we the sons …..

 

                                                                                      theme
 
     … please see it’s difficult to phrase clearly because much is going on now    —
     this is the ‘trial’ and ‘recompence’ theme belonging to the ‘denial of Peter’ 
     and the 1Cor page with the same overall subject ;
     while more and more this appears to be the closing theme (-of the Scroll) 
     as a content strongly linking to Passover & Firstfruits — which is positive ,
     even though we still try to understand how to fit in the just expired ’70 days’ 
 
     first question : but Christ undid it all .. ?
     … curiously in this restored section He explains what happened so that we
     do not need to speculate much : He tells about the gap (or ‘guilt’) between
     God and us after the event at that tree happened – but the FACT that he also
     says that line (see top) about Adam , combined with the buildup unto the end
     concerning the ‘recompence theme’ must show that the interpretation is right ;
     in the text ,
     the “souls being saved because of what He did” is differentiated with the
     theme of “the restorátion of the souls (-receiving their Originals)” which will
     happen ‘at the end of days when the sons will arise’ – as a time line conform
     prophets – that will restore the scroll and make this recompence , as well
 
     justification to be done unto God
     … Christ says in this section that indeed Hé did that justification unto God ,
     adding “because you were unable (incapable) to” – which is true ofcourse 
     so there’s no heresy going on in this text ; but the key word is “enabling” :
     concerning this recompence theme He enabled us to do that justification
     unto God which we still owed Him , because of this ‘family-tree aspect’ 
 
     the hurt of God
     we used the phrase ‘hurt’ because we can understand that position ,
     while He already may have felt the oceans of pain of everything that was
     about to go Wrong in that moment when Adam refused Him — apart from
     the fact that His own nature of great kindness was insulted ;
     we don’t want to speculate here – and anyway He’ll tell us soon – but try
     to bring to light the mágnitude of this awful event which Jacob isn’t aware
     of simply because it has been unrecogizably buried in the scroll …
 
     the price : the death of the soul
… the soul is the carrier of our type beings , having an almost .. simple 
     and binary nature of “liking or rejecting what is happening to her” where in
     the Eden situation everything she possesses is in reality a gift of God   —
     not only her gorgeous body (-which féels to her like a constant gift !) but
     also all of her surroundment and even the broad consciousness for her
 
     … it’s a wonderful feeling to have such a powerful deity ‘as her backup’ 
     while He does not make her to feel ‘like a slave’ or anything Negative ; 
     however ,
     if He would withdraw that covering her situation would drastically change ,
     which must have happened like this unto Adam after he made his choice
     [perhaps it wrote “and they realized they were alone” instead of “naked”] 

     because God gives 100% – see above , 
     a transgression against that fact must
     result in a 100% recompence by the
     recipient óf the oceans of gifts ;
     yet the only thing a recipient is able 
     to give is his own being — his soul ….
 
lk16

     arguably Adam resisted exactly this ,
     while he still had all the faculties as
     well as the power he had been created with that had been the gift to him , 
     yet he decided to keep the now greatly diminished gift as the protection for 
     his own soul – instead of God’s covering protecting her ! – and went his 
     went to the North to do all those horrible things we saw in prophets
 
     not saying we understand everything — just reconstructing :
     God could easily have destroyed Adam – but in that case He likely would
     have destroyed our entire family-tree , right at the beginning ! so that
     His plan was “to let it all run its course” but as one He directed , 
     yet sooner or later the sons would come back to that evil tree : being the
     representatives of that one soul who rejected any recompence backthen …
 
     the ‘laying down of the soul’ 
     … so that the mentioned ‘100% recompence’ implies that the soul ceases
     to exist — through which the being itself ceases to exist …
     this is a very sacred and complex theme ; just remember please that this
     was the ultimate sacrifice of Christ who had no part in all of it , and imagine
     the sheer magnitude of God indeed losing his own son
 
     from His point of view it is therefore reasonable that he asks the same of
     us (the sons – not the daughters) ; though we are not able to lay her down
     like Christ must have , but it’s more “as if the soul is extinguished in stages” 
     after she once had made a promise to God that she would die for him ;
     in this light it’s very possible that the restored text is correct concerning the
     prayer of Christ in the garden (-see page) since it was the final theme …
              sub :
             in the intro of the “Peter’s denial” pages we reserved a section about
             this complex theme but the piece is unfinished still]     
 
     the ‘recompence’ linked to Passover (-and firstfruits)                                                            <<<<
     … to be honest ,
     this is what we must have overlooked just ago after the ‘Atonement the 14th’ ,
     the ‘fullmoon theme’ and ‘the 70 days’ finds needed all of our attention     —
     our (hopefully !) final cycle started at Unleavened with declaring the scroll
     so that perhaps we also need to end in that sacred week ; while it seems
     possible that ‘the extra months we crossed’ since Atonement the 14th’ which
     depicts the start of the Tribulation was a foreshadowing of the years until
     Jacob will be rescued out of it ;
     yet the most important link with Passover is ‘that tree’ and ‘recompence’
     because of the close similarity of our position right now concerning both of
     these aspects — and again , compare His prayer in the garden — so that at
     least we must have found the proper (continued-) road again !
             sub :
             … apart from the mentioned ‘Atonement’ , ‘full moon’ and ’70 days’ also
             the ‘baptism theme’ may have been ‘guardians’ covering up this final
             recompence one .. does that make Sense ? would we ever have come
             to here without having found those ? 
 
     now please : there are several reasons why Firstfruits could be our Date ,
     but refraining here from mentioning them — you know why
     [do see the text appearing to show “smitten because of disappointments”] 
 
                                                                                        TEXT (20-31)

     this alleged ‘parable’ 
     … it’s very difficult to interpret the original theme of
     a text having been mutilated into a ‘parable’ form ;
     last year April we made an overview of this section
     and seeing ‘two groups’ , a type ‘tribulation’ coupled
     with phrases as ‘witnessing unto others’ (in 28) we
     assumed it was the restored scroll + the 144,000 ;
     however ,
     the latter theme showed up in other ‘parable’ texts 
     where in this one certain important key words much 
     better fit the ‘recompence theme’
lazarus

     what and what not did He say about eden ?
     … we have a broad spectrum of themes from prophets that we can apply in NT
     but we must remember that those themes were for us to find , so that what was
     said to the disciples must have been “the necessary aspects (-only)”     —
     in this case  explaining why He came to earth , he had to say something about
     what happened at that tree and about Adam’s response : but nót how the latter
     went to the north to build Mystery-Babylon (etcetera) ,
     where the available lines in the text neither give room for those sub-themes ;
     though it is a constant deciding “what is too much – and what isn’t” the result is
     very readable and defendable
 
     consecutive themes : #1 general salvation >> #2 restoration
     … well described in this section :
     His death on the cross , in physical sense , was to deliver all Jacob-souls so 
     that they would be brought unto God after their physical death , yet since this
     would not restore them (-in their beautiful Original) He mentions ‘the sons’
     that will make the recompence — and we already saw how the disciples will
     be restored together with the 144 when the latter arrive in tsiun  
 
    this Lk.16 related to 1Cor16 and Peter’s denial I & II (John)
     … all of these clearly show the recompensce theme ,
     though not all show the exact same used terminology — the main theme is
     rather extensive with key words ‘tree, Adam, guilt, trial, recompence’ etcetera
     while all (!) corrupted texts may have concealed one of these specific words 

 
                                                                            notes at lines
 
     (20)
     “certain sons of the remnant”
     … though we know that “each of the 144 will need to die to the own flesh”,
     both the males and females , the upcoming theme of “laying down the soul” 
     is only for the males — and more specified likely “only for those of us here”  –
     though we cannot exclude that it also happens to sons within the wider 144 ,  
  (21)
     “beaten down by the previous times”
  … the question is “would He say that” and the answer must be affirmative 
     considered the fight (last year) to understand Unleavened / Weeks / etc ;
     it may have read “beaten down since Weeks when the scroll was accepted” 
     which is true because from then the soul started dying — but let’s not overdo it ; 
     (22)
     “and why his soul did nót die” 
     … still belonging to the buildup as introduction to this theme ,
     (23)
     “that Sheol has widened her mouth” 
     … if this prophets quote was intended here , for it feels a tad out of place     —
     yet , and knowing that the text would be corrupted ! , He can have made sure
     with ‘Hades’ that we would understand “the other reality theme” combined with
     death and by extension Adam ; [where Sheol is “a dark place of isolation” ,
     perhaps “the pits for souls” Enoch talks about]  ,
     (25)
     “legally yóu have rejected him”
     … as the whole ‘family tree concept’ above in intro ; thing is that we only have
     a limited number of words to our disposal – hoping it turned out clear enough ,  
   (30)
     “ánd [or : ‘in order that’]  they will be disannulling” 
  … this is tricky — likely bóth are true , as consecutive [alike #1 and #2]  :
     all the themes in the scroll lead to the recompence theme ;  
 
mirror :
– the words “dogs + eat + master + table” , see line 22 here : Mt.15:27 + Mar.7:28
    but as cut-out section and heavily mutilated ,
– perhaps the alleged parable of “the Good Samaritan” :
    ofcourse the story as it shows now is nonsense   —
    a number of aspects cóuld be fitted into the same theme here , but the whole
    Samaritan buildup is so distorted that it’s likely impossible to retrieve
– perhaps ‘Jonah’ (?) :
    yet having a similar distorted buildup as the Samaritan
 
corruptions : totally Impossible — only when one has an idea of the original theme
theme   : context 100% restored , syntax VERY high ,
fulltext : below
 

for you Sir ,
as close as possible to how you must have said it
 
 
 
Luke 16 (20-31 section)

 
fulltext :                                                                                                 [situation : probably ‘in this time before Passover’ :]  
20
at that time ,
there will be certain sons of      +                                                                                                                                      [‘you & we’]    
the remnant of Ishral      +                                                                                                                                                          [‘all 144’] 
which will at the door of Eden      +                                              [‘eden dimension’]   [‘door’ : ‘Philadelphia church’] 
that I will open unto them ;     +                                                                                                          [hopefully ‘at Passover’ !] 
21
being those whose soul will have been smitten ,                                                                                  [psichion=psuché !] 
as beaten down by the previous times when I had not gathered them ,                         
even though they had been following the themes of the scroll ;                                                              [helkê=hylê !] 
22
yet now it will be as if their soul is dýing ;                                                                                                    [ptôchon=psuché]    
therefore they will again study him ,       
to understand about the transgression of Adam ,                                                                                    [abraham=adam] 
and why his soul did nót die ;
and how it is written ,   +                                                                                                                                            [line continues :]  
23
that Sheol (not ‘hell’) has enlarged her mouth     +                                                                                              [a : see note] 
because of the multitudes entering her : 
b
caused by Adam from the beginning
after he had been sent away from the garden of Eden ;                                                                            [kolpos=kêpos] 
24
for he did not cry out , saying :
Father God , have mercy upon me ,      
because I have transgressed against you      +                                                                                 [pempó=parerchomai] 
by eating from the fruit of the tree which you forbade me to ;                                                  [daktulos=dendron] 
b
but instead , his heart became haughty ,                                                                                                           [as in prophets] 
and he rejected the love of God ;                                                                                                                            [phlogi=agapé] 
25                                                                                                                                                                     [next : unique lines in NT :] 
therewith Adam became the adversary ,
yet is allowed by God      +                                                                                                                           [mimnéskó=dokimazô] 
to steal for himself the good things of Eden for his ówn life ,
while bestowing evil (matrix-) things upon you ;
but God would not intervene for the sake of you ,                                                                         [parakoleó=epikoura] 
since legally yóu have been rejecting him ;                                                                                        [‘but through Adam !’]  
26
and because of all of this ,     
a great guilt had been established     +                                                                                [by exténsion ‘a chasm’ exists] 
between God and you (‘as Jacob-souls’) 
which first he desires to be recompenced by you ;                                                             [26 : important intro to 28]   
but since you were not áble to , 
therefore I am recompensing it unto him ;                                                                                         [di-apereó=apotinô !] 
27                                                                                                                                                                         [#1 : ‘general salvation’ :] 
and the Father will accept my salvation of you ,                                                                  [‘by His body on the cross’] 
so that I will bring you unto the throne of my Father ;                                                               [‘after physical death’] 
28                                                                                                                                                                             [#2 : ‘the restoration’ :] 
and at the end he will make to arise the sons of + Ishral      +
through whom he will be glorifying you ;                                                                                      [‘restore in the Original’] 

when they will follow me     +                                                                                                                                    [-in this aspect] 
by means of they themselves having made recompence     +                                                                [the core, for us] 
for the guilt (or ‘transgression’) of Adam ;
29                                                                                                                                                                                                            [closing :] 
then the disciples say unto him :
so : that they (‘sons’) will have come to understand the words of God    +
will not be sufficient to him ? ;                                                                                                                                  [akouó=arkeô !] 
30
and he says : no ,      +                                    
because the Father desires that they will understand him ,
ánd that (or : ‘in order that’ ?)       +                                                                                                                                    [see notes] 
they will be disannulling the hurt (or : ‘injustice’) having been done to him ;                                         [‘by Adam’]  
31
therefore I will gather them
when they will have restituted (‘rendered’) both the scroll and the guilt (‘of Adam’) unto him ;                                     
and when Adam will have died ,
God will be glorifying (‘restoring’) all of you .                                                                                                                  [line 28] 
 
end                                and end of section 

 
 
Luke 16 (20-31 section)
 
                                                                                                                   [situation : probably ‘in this time before Passover’ :] 
20
“And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,”
20
[=at that time]  ,
b
(there-) (will) be – certain – poor=sons (ptôchos=yhios) of       +                                                        
           [‘you& we’]  
c
(the-) name=remnant (onoma=hypoleimma) of – lazarus=Ishral      +                                                            
[‘all 144’]  
d
which – (will) laid=stand – at – the – door of – him=Eden     +                                                         
[‘eden dimension’]  
e
(that-) [+I]  (will) have ulcers=open (helkoó=anoigô) (-unto them) ;                                              
[‘Rev.3 & others’] 
note :
… at the proper time “the door will be opened for the whóle remnant” ofcourse
but we are not there yet ; while this specific theme is only for the sons ;
 
[next 21 :
a sub-line inbetween “standing at the door” and “the soul dying (in next 22)” ,
what can it have said here ? in fact nothing cause 22 follows 20 very well !
the strange ‘to lust’ and ‘licking’ (1x !) cóuld mean Esau invented this one for drama :]               
21
“And desiring [=lust]  to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: 
moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.”
21
and – [..]  [+their]  crumbs=soul (?) (psichion=psuché !)       +
b
(will) (have) lust=been (‘separate verb for past tense ?’) – fed=smitten (?) (chortazó=rapizô) ,
c
(as-) beaten down (4098) – from – the – 
[next : admissable ? :] 
     d
     [..]  rich=previous (?) (plousios=proteros) (adj.) – [..]  table=times (?) (trapezês=kairos)
     e
     but=when – [+I]  (had) – and=not – coming=gathered (‘verb at end’) – [..]  dogs=them ,
     f
     [next : no reason makes Sense now but only ‘the scroll’ :] 
     
     (even though-) [+they]  (had been) licked=following (apoleichó=akoloutheô , close ?)     +
     g
     the – ulcers=themes (‘matters’) (?) (helkê=hylê) of – (the-) him=scroll ; 

 
22
“And it came to pass, that the beggar died, 
and was carried by the angels + into Abraham’s + bosom:                                                                                  [difficult]  
the rich man also died, and was buried;”
22
[=yet]  (now) (it-) (will) be – [as if-]  [+their]  poor=soul (ptôchon=psuché) – (is) dying ;                        [see 31] 
b

[now how do we get to ‘Sheol enlarged’ in next 24 ?
while we also need something about ‘Adam’ here :] 

and=therefore – [+they]  (will) – him=again       +
c
carried=study (apopheró=spoudazô) – [..]  the – angels=scroll (aggelon=biblion , as shown) ,
d
(now-) into=concerning – the – bosom=transgression (?) (kolpos=parabasis) of – abraham=Adam ,
e
[=as]  – and=why – [..]  [+his]  rich=soul (plousios=psuché) – (did) [+not]  die ;
f

[what can (thaptó) póssibly be ? :] 
[new line :] 

and (how-) – [+it]  (is) entombed=written ,       +     
                   [now must follow a quote :]     [line continues :] 
note :
… the buildup of this 22 makes sense : as always after being in a certain situation ,
they investigate the scroll what she has to say about that + the intro to ‘Adam’ is good ;
 
[next 23 : it’s almost impossible that He did nót use the prophets line :] 
23
“And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, 
and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.”                                                               [a-b : prophets line :] 
23
[=that]  – [..]  [..]  Sheol (not ‘hell’) – (has) lift=enlarged (epairó=platynô) – [=her]  – eyes=mouth
b
[swapped :] 
(because of-) (the-) torments=multitudes (basanos=ochlos) – being=entering – in=her ,
c
(being-) seeing=caused – the=by – abraham=Adam – from – (the-) afar=beginning
d
    and=after (?) – [+he]  (was) lazarus=sent away (‘verb ?’)      +
    e
    in=from – the – bosom=garden (kolpos=kêpos) of – him=eden (autou=eden) ;  

 
[next 24 : bingo —
ofcourse he did NOT repent ! :] 
24
(a) “And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, 
(b)  and send Lazarus, that he may dip + the tip of + his finger in water, 
(c)  and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.”
24
[=for]  – [+he]  (did) he=not – cry out , saying :
b
Father – abraham=God , (have) mercy – (upon-) me ,      +
c

[now should follow the reason ‘the original sin’ — but how ? :] 

and=because – [+I]  send=transgressed (pempó=parerchomai) – (against-) lazarus=you
d
that=by – dip=eating – (from) the – tip=fruit (akron=karpos) of + the – finger=tree (Daktulos=Dendron)
e
    (which-) [+you]  water=forbade (?) (hudor=diakôlyô) – him=me (-to) ;                                 [f : prophets line :] 

 
f
and=but (-instead) , my=his – [..]  tongue=heart – (became) cool=haughty (ka-tapsuchó=typhoô)
g
[now a consequence :] 

that=and – I=he pained=rejected (oDunaó=ap-oDokimazô)      +
h
in=any (?) – [..]  flame=love (phlogi=agapé , as shown) of – this=God (taute=theos) ;

note :
a) … it can have said “rejected – a – return – (unto-) God” for example ,
    but now the real crime is very explicit and see rest of text ;
b) reading through it the line has a solid buildup ;    
 
[next 25 :
having done 23-31 this key line is the most tricky — we cannot say ‘too much’ since
what really happened and what Adam all did was for you & we to find out :] 
25
“But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, 
and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.”
25
[=therewith]  – abraham=Adam – said=became – (the-) child=adversary (teknon=echthros) ,
b
(and-) (is) remember=allowed (mimnéskó=dokimazô) – (by-) that=God      +
c
to got=steal – (for) you=himself – the – good things of – you=eden      +
d
in=for – you=his (-ówn) – [..]  life ,
e
     and=while – lazarus=bestowing (?) (now “lazarus” needs be a verb see 24-c)       + 
     f
     évil things – (upon-) as=yóu ;                                                                                       [not implying ‘evil things of eden’]  
g
[=yet]  – [+he]  (God) (would) – now=not – comforted=intervene (parakoleó=epikouria)       +
f
(for-) (the sake of-) here=you ,                                                                                                 [‘not for-sake of-you he (etc)’] 
g
[difficult :] 
     [=since]  [+legally]  (‘lawful’) (ennomos G1772 , adjective)        +
     h
     [+you]  (had) pained=rejected (‘same as in 24-g’) – you=him ;                                                      
[‘through Adam’] 
note :
… the reasoning of this line seems okay ,
moreover – this is the first time that this deep theme is showing in NT !
remember Is.53 where God says “therefore my servant volunteered to go overthere” + see next : 
 
26
“And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed:                                                    [‘a separation’] 
so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot;                                                              [‘consequence #1’] 
neither can they pass to us, that [would come]  from thence.                                   [‘consequence/solution #2’] 
26
and – beside=because – all of – this ,                                                                                                      [26 : VERY possible :] 
b
(a-) great – chasm (or : ‘guilt’ , chasma=enochos but no noun exist in Strong’s)       +
c
(had been) established – between – us=God – and you 
(‘as Jacob-souls’) ,
d

[what is next ? “the grief of God” or “some impossibility for souls , as result” ? :] 

which-how=which – those=first – [..]  [+he]  desires      +
e
(to be) pass=recompenced (diabainó=apotinô) – (by-) hence=you ;                                               [‘to pass’ – see g]       

(but-) unto=since – you – (were) not – áble (-to) ,
g
no=therefore – [+I]  (am) ferrying=recompensing (di-apereó=apotinô) – [..]  thence=it      +
h
unto – them=him ;        +

 
                                                                                     part I c
                                                                                      27-31
                     now the story line should return to the sons you & we , but how ?
                      does ‘the sons’ start here or in 28 with the “five + brothers” ? 
                      or was the intent : 27) salvation then 28) restoration ? possibly :
 
[next 27 : first ‘(general-) salvation’ :] 
27
“Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:”
27
    [=and]  – (the-) Father – (will) said=accept (?)      +              
    b
    then=my – pray=salvation (?) (‘deliverance’) (erótaó=sôtêria) of – you ,
c
so that – you=I (will) send=bring – him=you       +                                                                           [‘after physical death’]  
d
unto – the – house=throne (oikos=thronos) of – [..]  my – Father ;                                                                 [see note] 

note :
a) keeping the neutral “the throne of…” , instead of “to his sacred mount” 
or “to the house of eden” since those are terms related to the sons ;
 
[next 28 : now ‘restoration (‘glorification’) – at the end’ :] 
28
“For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
strong>28
for=and (-at the end) I=he (will) have=make to arise (echô=egeirô)       +

(the-) five=sons of + brothers=Ishral      +                                                                                      
[c : “restore in Original”] 
c
which-how=through whom – he (will be) testify=glórifying (diamarturomai=endoxazomai) – them=you ;
d

[next : difficult intent , do see note :] 

that=when – no=they – [..]  (will) come=follow – you=me     +                                               [‘they me shall-follow’] 
e
to=by means of – (they-) the=themselves – (having made) place=recompence (topos=apotinô)      +
    f
    (for-) the – this=guilt (?) (‘offense’ ?) of – [..]  torment=Adam (?) (bAsAn-ou=AdAm) ;

note :
a) we cannot say “when they will follow me […]  to that place of torment” ,
      neither “make recompence for the guilt of Jacob” (though torture looks like Jacob)
      since He did that for all of Jacob , 
      a “make recompence for their ówn guilt” is true as ‘representing Jacob’ but too vague ,
      where now the “they themsélves for Adam’s guilt” feels best – after He did that first ;
 
    closing 29-31 : what was the intent ? :
    – they cóuld be fabricated ofcourse since the contents are more .. flat ,
    – but since the most important was said now — ‘the disciples speak again’ 
        as often at the closing of a theme ? but “what” would be their question ? :
 
[next 29 :
after the above , this question seems valid & logical ! since they knéw about the sons
restoring the scroll – but this was a new additional theme ;
this also supports the colour of the 1Cor16 (and John 13 I & II) page :] 
29
“Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.”
29
[+then]  (the-) abraham=disciples – say – (unto-) him :
b
(so) : (that-) they (‘sons’) (will have come) to have=understand        +
c
(the-) moses=words (môses=logos) of + [..]  [..]  prophets=God (prophétés=theos) [reaff.subject]      +
d
(will) [+not]  (be) hear=sufficient (akouó=arkeô !) – (to-) them=him ? ; 

 
         now we maneuvered ourselves into a ‘theological problem’   —
         if the scroll belongs to ‘the trial’ then the scroll must be ‘guiding tó that trial’ 
         in the sense of “showing – and causing – that recompence :
 
30
“And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.”
30
[=and]  – he says : no ,      +                                                                                  [30 : referring back to Adam’s rejection :]  
b
[w/ swapped :] 
[+because]  (the-) Father – abraham=desires      +
c
but -if-ever any
but=that – [+they]  (will) any=understand (tis=ginôskô) – if-ever=him ,     [‘him they-shall-understand’] 
d
from=ánd       +                                                                                                                                                         
[or “in order that” ?] 
e
(will be) repenting=disannulling (metanoêsousin=athetêsis , as shown – related !)       +
f
(the-) dead=hurt (nekros=hybris)          +                                                                                             
[sic , see John 13 page] 
                    injustice (nekros=adikia)
g
(that-) (has been) gone=done – unto – them=him ;                                                                                               
[‘by Adam’]  
note :
… the “understanding him” should refer to “the many themes (-in the scroll)” 
culminating in this recompence theme — the “ánd” and “in order that” both are true ..
 
[final 31 :
though again ‘Moses + prophets’ shows here it’s not necessarily the same as in 29 ,
because now we have two themes [-those of 30] :
31
“And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, 
neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”
31
and=therefore – he=I (will) said=gather – him=them
b
if=when – they (will have) hear=restituted (‘rendered’)      +
c
(both-) (the-) moses=scroll – and – the – prophets=guilt (‘of Adam’) – (unto-) not=him ;               
d
neither=and – if=when – any=Adam – (will have) died ,
e
rise=God (anistémi=theos) [reaff.subject]      +


(will be) persuaded=glorifying (‘restoring’) [+all of] [+you] .                                           [line 28]

 
 
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