[the ‘two sets of roots’ is an unexpected find !] 

… we will need to start at the beginning , making sure that we have all the aspects to can compare them with those inhere :   the evil West had made the serpent-race        and placed them upon the south-land as the “shore of Heaven” that is in the East ,  in order to keep a connection to Heaven   to can vampire off of her , till God had enough and threw them out ; He then separated the dual-realm below and above the south-land to create the  Eden paradise as the realm now ruling these two heavens ,        which is the core of His later Covenant

their version of ‘the two heavens’

 
after Eden fell ,
the serpent race could not return to the south-land that they see as ‘homeland’ (!)
but the West still needed the connection with the south-land in order to continue 
their siphoning off of Heaven , this time by bleeding dry Eden  —
so that they build their region right to the north of Eden , virtually upon her roof , 
as their region being “the new middle” ruling the dual-realm above and below :
this book describes that endeavour from their point of view 
 

                                                                                              theme
 
    … this book contains the same theme as “the 12 hours of Amduat” so that we can 
    go back and forth to compare certain aspects ; this one shows on the PDF (here)
    starting at page [95]  and Amduat (here) at page [14]  ;
    it is best to keep the PDF opened please because it is undoable to copy every pic ,
    and though we’d love to go through the glyph text one glyph a time , that will have 
    to be another time because we first need to get the overall concepts right ,
    but at each translation will show the [page number]   
 

hour one [-of twelve]      the intro must be the explanation for this vignette     reconstructed here to its original intent ,     depicting the south-land with their jackal standard     and their to-be region in the North by that of the ram ,     where the boat in the middle depicts the ‘progress’ of      building their North region through the twelve hours ,     and the text at the boat tells “what this hour is about”

 
    our first interest is ‘what is with the [2x]  12 figurines’ 
    and where do they originate from , but starting with 
    the other aspects first to get them out of the way   —
    
    below , both our concept and theirs show aligned where their one side is ‘the south-land’ 
    and the other almost identical one the “to-be build land of mystery-Babylon in the North” :
    

  
 
    realms & their nature
    that both lands show having “a mountain” is curious : we know that tsiun as the sacred 
    mountain of God is important in the Scroll — though these must be other mountains —
    so that these two can represent “the authority of a realm” ,
    in this case the dual-realm ‘Behemoth (north) and Leviathan’ as opposites of each other, 
    not only as masculine & feminine but also as different dimensional directions (Vectors) ;
    now ,
    the nature of the serpent-race was this ‘strong dualism’ since they were created inside it ,
    so that “the tree of good & evil” (standing in the south-land) must have represented this
    harsh by God unsanctioned dualism 
       [and sounding like the snake here : but did it really say “of good and evil” ? [Gen.2:17] 
       for isn’t that a bit .. too simple , sounding like Esau’s corruption to bury this theme ?] 
    because ,
    the serpent race carried the Legal right of this ‘strong dualism’ from the time that Eden 
    was nót yet created to rule both heavens [assuming that something had gone wrong]  
    so that the male and female aspects as opposites became outside of each-other ,
 
    instead of Eden’s concept where the beautiful female opposite is inside her male     — 
    as the sanctified situation designed by Heaven as blueprint for Eden ,
    wherefore God’s mountain may well represent “the ruling dimension of Heaven itself” 
    backing up our paradise and her extension as the Eden realm
 
    reconstructing a far past , though speculative ,
    the evil West likely came into being when Satan was thrown out of Heaven so that he 
    occupied ‘an opposed region’ as ‘the West’ which got warped and aligned according to 
    his nature and that of his cronies , then he captured the northern dual-realm as the 
    masculine Behemoth (-in an attempt to stay connected to Heaven , see intro) , 
    and polluted the Behemoth realm accordingly ,
    because we saw in the Scroll that the northern realm “needs to be cleansed” 
    [wherefore there is no dualism ‘Heaven’ and ‘the West’ because the latter will cease]  ,
    and that the south-land as the shore of Heaven with her fortress Eden upon it will be
    protected from being invaded by the demon-nations wanting a connection to Heaven ;
    saying this ,
    because the phrase “the West” shows in this vignette – as it often does in the Spells – 
    since the West corrupted Behemoth which in turn brought forth the serpent race ,
    so that their ultimate ‘ruling nature’ is “that of the West” backing up both their region
    and their enterprise — just as Heaven backs up Eden
 
    the above must link to the ‘upside-down’ land shown in the vignette :
    because their nature is evil it also affects the realm they dwell in (-or conquered) 
    since Behemoth is a ‘conscious’ realm , a Morphic (resonance) Field , 
    and because a wicked nature has an inward flow — as opposed to that of God —
    we take it ‘that also the dimensional Vector’ could alter as “chronically misaligned” ;
    as the reason for the glyph “to stand upright” here and in many Spells ,
    so that a stolen Eden-concept they want to re-use first needs to be ‘flipped around’ 
    to be aligned with théir nature (-and conquered realm) in order to can serve them ;
 
    and though ‘physically’ they can align with our (Heaven’s) cardinal points ,
    since the serpent race did dwell in the pre-Eden south-land , their nature does not ;
    where an in the Spells frequent line “I will not walk upside-down” may not just be a
    refusal to physically & spiritually align with the Eden Vector ,
    but may imply that ultimately their reality IS physically completely upside down …
 
  the [2x]  12 figures 
    which is a great problem for us for it could sink our base 10 theme ,
    so that we needed to know whether these 12 were invented or indeed original    —
    but the text is difficult and confusing for it does show the glyph “to create” (QMA) 
    yet either about “things for their new region” OR about “creating those twelve” , 
    so that the first hour of Amduat could help out here :

in the first hour shows the same triple division      [though the center one is doubled]  and at the both     sides several times “12 goddesses” and ’12’ uraei ,     and since these all represent concepts (to realize) ,     they are invented — making a good case for the 12     showing here also being an invented 12 ;     all of them have names as aspects of their Torus      that they are to build in the North or aspects which     they are to steal from Eden ,      like those showing in ‘sets of 9’ like the ‘9 apes’ etc ,     where the apes “open the Eden gate” (why apes ?)

 
 
    so , sets of 12 and sets of 9 … did that reflect base 10 and 7 ?
    or why these distinct two ‘sets’ of deities ?
    though we still don’t know how became their ‘9’ [perhaps their triple-realm tripled ?]  
    the idea can be “that the 12 battles our base-10” while “the 9 battles the 7 as God’s 
    sacred number” (and they added ‘2’ to both of them?) ,
    but this AND the fact that they suddenly could come up with all these numbers 
    strongly suggests ‘that at this point , Adam already had sold base 10 to them’                        [sic] 
    but they just are silent about that ,
    or from where would come the Legal power to go create attacking ‘numbers’ ?
 
    in the Amduat hour he seems to call these apes and goddesses ‘spirits’ , [28]   ,
    the divine spirits. thou (‘candidate’). (matrix-) existence. to make to illumine. , 
    and in [27]   ,
    [to]   my. (matrix-) existence. to come hail. ,
    [by means of for-]   me. the spirits to become (‘come in existence’). 
    [and]  (matrix-) existence. [by]   these (‘spirits’). [for]   me. to create (‘same QMA as here).
    [and so for]   my. Ba bird body. [to be]   double existence. [in]   name [of]  .: 
    [by]   these (‘spirits’). [for]   me. (matrix-) existence. to make (-by Eden) (AR). ;
    [and / because for ?]   me. [are?]   the corpses (‘diminished Eden base 10’?). ,
    (matrix-) existence. [by?]   these (‘base 10’). to make (-by Eden) (AR). 
    [through]   these (‘base 10’). [by]   me. to command. 
    a) this section seems solid ,
    b) if it’s true that ‘corpses’ (KHAT) was ‘diminished base 10’ in the Mainpage
         the same can be true here —
    and though he neither explains “from where come the 12” ,
    clearly these spirits are ‘concepts’ also causing Eden to make things for them
    plus base-10 adding more power to that (now hold on — that is ‘two sets’ also?)
 
    and finally : in Rgveda their numbers are ‘3’ and ‘5’ , the first for their triple realm
    (they call ‘Trita’) and the other for “their serpent race as 5 tribes” ;
    where the ‘7’ and ’10’ in Rgveda show as conquered numbers – not their own
 
                                                                   hour one : text
 
    at the boat in the center , usually explaining what the hour is about ,
    and something very interesting started to show here
    because it addresses both sets : base 10 (matrix 12) and base 7 (matrix 9) !
    [97] 
[to be]   the beer. [and]   foods.    +                                                                  [< base-10 wheat theme] 
[in order-]   for. (matrix-) existence to make (‘as concept’).
[by]   to become the word (‘mixed matrix-eden light’) of (dimensional-) wideness.
[and]   the ones to transform. [in]   the many ones. [of]   the great. god (‘to-be matrix Torus’). ,
[and so for]   he (‘Torus’). [to be]   the (matrix-) light of existence [..]  . [of]   eden-within. ;
 
[as]   (matrix-) existence. to be (by) the (from Eden stolen) (matrix-) house-H (‘hebrew-H-glyph’). 
[and by]   he. within (-the matrix). , the double (matrix-) existence. to manifest. ;
[to be]   (matrix-) existences. [of]   thou (‘candidate’). willpower of speech. for. he. the flesh. ,
[and]   he. to guide (?) (SM). this. great. god (‘Torus region’). ,  
[through]   the ones (‘[2x]   12’?) to command (-by law). [by]   this. power (make speech for the word). [..]  
here ,
since there’s no other subject ‘the ones’ can be ‘the [2x]   12’
also because they indeed ‘furnish the land’ ;
cont.:
(because-) [to be]   (matrix-) existence of hail. [for]   the (matrix-) foreign land S-T (‘north , to-be Torus’). 
[through]   the word (‘light’). [for?]   the main roots (“the [2x]   12”?). [as]   the crown.   + 
to furnish. the (to-be) (matrix-) land. ;
[and by ?]   the word (‘light’). [now of?]   the main roots.     +
[through]   the speech. [of]   me. to be (matrix-) stability of hail (AMEN). [of]   everything. ;
 
was the above about base 10 / 12 , and next is ‘base 7 / 9’ as “(single-) root” ?

because again it is about ‘the root’ (P) but this reads as if ‘a second category’ using an unknown glyph S-M-P+danger [shown figure ‘wards off something’ >>]   , that has no glyph-cluster surrounding it ; starting now with ‘double one’, see (X) , suggesting anóther set of roots — stolen base 7 ? :

 
[and by]   the double one (X) of (matrix-) existence. (matrix-) existences to make (‘as concept’). ,
[as]   existence. [by]   the light (?) of the root + SM (unknown see above). 
[and]   existences to máke (‘as concept’). [by]   the (dangerous-) root + SM (‘idem’). ,

[because for]   [my]   (matrix-) existence. to become the word of law (that Adam sold to them?). 
[and]   these. [for]   my (adj.) – existence. [are?]   the spirit ones (?). [in?]   the house of …….. ;
[to be]   (matrix-) existence. [of]   the illuminating (matrix-) lights. [of]   eden-within. ;
[and]   these. [for]   existence. [to be]   the word of breath-air.     +
[as]   the divine ones. [at]   the (matrix-) dimensional side. [of]   existence.    +
[by]   the (dangerous-) root + SM (‘idem’). ,
[so that]   (eden-) existence. (matrix-) existence. to fill. ,                                       [eden fills the matrix] 
[by]   the ones (‘roots’?) connecting to. the speech. [of]   (matrix-) existence. ,
[as]   the (dangerous-) root + SM (‘idem’). [for]   me. to be the (matrix-) one of eden-within. ;
 
[final line about above base-7 :] 
[=and]   (so) [to be]   (matrix-) existence. [because]   the PEST (matrix-) light (‘base 12 Zodiac’).   +
(will) illuminate (adj.) – the (matrix-) foreign land S-T (‘Torus’, as above). ,
[repeating about earlier base-10 :] 
[and as]   (matrix-) existence. [through]   RA. ,
[and together :] 
[in order to be]   (matrix-) existence of hail. [\\]   

the ‘dangerous root’ is an important clue for ‘base 7’ but also the phrasing like
the ‘dimensional side of existence’ as if something Major was transferred to it
and is now ‘filling (matrix-) existence’ : the wording is too heavy for base 10 ;
while in the first half ‘he commands the roots’ but here talks about ‘the Legal word’

following right after ‘the (dangerous-) root (P)’ ; and because that P is singular another option shows for the infamous glyph we kept for ‘Eden’ as “the serpent APEP” ;     >> we knew it was ‘the double-root PP’ but linked the wrong objects to them until now because only ‘base 7 & 10’ can apply !    the (eden) serpent /     [as]   the (dangerous-) double root P-P /    [for to be]   (matrix-) greatness’  and hence in the rest of this book this serpent is completely stripped and restrained ;

also in the same Amduat chapter shows the A-PP as version by the ‘to come / the double root P-P / (for) (matrix-) willpower” > in [29]   start ,

(matrix-) existences to make. above (‘north’).
[by means of]   to come the double-root (for) willpower.    +
[as]   these (‘both sets’). [for]   the shore-lands of the solar plane (sic) (ATB+).
[and]   these. (as) standing upright (-at matrix-vector) (‘see section above’). to give. 
[as]   these. [for]   the (matrix-) throne-house. 
[skipped] 
[and]   these. [as]   door-bolts. (eden-) existence. to seal up (KHTM). 
[so that from]   [=these]  . doors (‘opened eden gate north’). (matrix-) existence. to develop. ;
        here ,
        for us it means that ‘both sets’ are the door-bolts for closing the opened gate ,
        as the line in Malachi “who of you will close the gate for Me?” ,
        so that factually Esau when erasing the 10-month theme out of the Scroll ,
        he concealed the very door-bolts for her closing
        [we use ‘to seal’ for ‘something closed’ but here it means ‘to keep open’]  ;
         and this raises another question :
         did old-Ishral at Passover put blood on the bolt (-s) of the door ?
         contextually that makes much more Sense while all the key-words about
        that event during the Passover were corrupted , as well as the buildup for
        that shows scattered across several chapters :
         but then also the prophecy of it was corrupted since the action must
        have been explained also … so we need to look at that after these pages
                  [but added :
                   in the book Job (terribly corrupt) in 38:10 God explains the creation of
                   Eden inbetween the seas (dual realm) , the corner stone [in 6]  and the
                   double-door with a ‘door bolt’ [in 10]  , in Spells as “the great double door
                   which they have opened” while here show ‘door boltS’ as multiple ;
                   we really need to look into this] 
 
well , this whole section became very important for us
for almost by context it proves that ‘the 12’ was a matrix invention ,
ánd that their sudden ‘juggling with numbers’ was because of the double root PP
[while in next hour 2 ‘Horus’ will show up to whom Adam gave both base 10 & 7] 

text at the 2 x 12 figures
we skip that please for that is not so relevant no more , mentioning ‘the details’ ,
“for [they]   create / all kinds of / reptiles / [and]   cattle / [and]   divine things /
[and?]   the divine Egyptians” ,
curiously HERRT here as the name for the imprisoned floor (see Mainpage)

 
                                                          (added : the Amduat version)  
[29] 
[for]  RA. [to be]  the (matrix-) word-inside. 
[as]  the ones of he (‘eden’) (for) the (matrix-) KH-house. 
[being]  the ones of the dimensional (matrix-) foreground. 
as. the pool (‘now matrix realm’). [of]  the word (‘mixed eden-matrix light’ here). ,
[by means of]  (matrix-) existence. the one (into?) the ARRT-gate. to lead. ,
[in this-]  (1st-) hour. [of]  the pool UR NES. ;    +
      here ,
      this Amduat hour talks a lot about ‘the ARRT-gate’ , or ARRT-corner ,
      as their “filtering gate” set right above the eden gate , that later will become a 7-fold gate
      each as ‘rooms’ where they mutilate (eden-) speech and light 
      [we did an ARRIT with 7 doors page]  ;
      and here shows ‘a corner glyph’ – as eden’s, still – because their own dimensional-Vector
      will be anchored to this (ARRIT corner) so that all stolen eden-aspects will descend into their
      warped realm “and need to stand upright” (see text below) ;
      
[as]  the (matrix-) field. for. (matrix-) existence to make (‘as concept’). ,
[because]  to he (‘field’). to come (eden-) existence to make (‘as concept’). 
[through]  the branch (or ‘aspect’) (likely ‘base 10 & 7’ — or ‘the eden cornerstone’).     +
[that]  makes (eden-) existence (‘as concept’). ,
[but because of-]  my. (the from eden stolen-) (matrix-) house-H (‘hebrew-H-glyph’). , 
(now) (matrix-) existence to make (‘as concept’). above (‘further north in their Torus’).  +
[at]  this. great. god. ;
       here ,
       the glyph “branch” (KHET) is used for the corner-stone , stolen scepter , etc ,
       and though we know that they very much want the corner stone ,
       perhaps the context of ‘branch’ is base 10 & 7 here , still ,
       to be changed in next lines to (their) double-root PP ;
[the next snippet we had:] 
[in order]  to come the (by eden-) double root PP (for) (matrix-) willpower.   +
[to]  these. (matrix-) solar plane shores. [and]  these (PP). standing upright. to give. ,
[because by]  these (PP). [to be]  the (matrix-) house of the throne.   +
[and]  by. these. [to be]  (matrix-) stability. ;  
      but ,
      with changed content now as their own base 9 and 12 ;
      next : a glyph seems to be ‘to destine’ which would link to “the tablets of destiny” 
      (both sets of roots) that Sumerian Ninurta got when he invaded Eden ,
      cont.:
[by]  to come the ones (PP) [to be]  the (real-) soul’s (‘the eden’-) (type) (matrix-) hail.    +
to destine (?) (SHA glyph). the divine (matrix-) quality and nature. ,
[and by means of]  the ones (PP) to come. [for to be]  the word (‘light’) of (matrix-) willpower. 
[to]  (matrix-) existence. [as]  my. (matrix-) nature. to come hail. ;
[the next snippet we had :] 
[and by?]  these. [are]  the door-bolts. [in order for]  (eden-) existence. [to be]  sealed up. ,
[so that]  [OUT of]  these. doors (‘opened double eden gate’). (matrix-) existence. will develop. ,
[and through ?]  this. (matrix-) ARRUT gate-corner. (eden-) existence. to battle (sic). ,
 
      here : end of the ‘double root theme’ ? (-and next section will be ‘aspects’)
      you could read the above (and we tried to get that colour)
      as “now that we HAVE the both sets of roots we can start to make existence”  
      because now “we have the door bolts that will keep the eden gate open” 
      [because in next section the eden gate will be opened by them]  ; 
      so , 
      perhaps base 10 (and 7) that Adam sold “was an Oath” ?
      not something tangible like ‘the tablet of destiny’ that Ninurta got (see below) ;
      also Enoch mentions ‘an oath’ (called ‘Akaē’ there) and perhaps not ‘watchers’ 
      related but was about this theme ?
      why would God ask “a vow” (root -ndr) at the day of Acceptance (‘Weeks’) 
      that the people will keep the (Eden-) year of 10 months ? why “a vow” ?
  
      next : to-be stolen aspects (the scepter & crystal floor) 
      and here show ‘the 4 x 12 goddesses’ and ‘4 x 9 beings’ of the vignette , above ,
      perhaps also “as telling what they will do WHEN the gate will be opened” 
      [which will happen after this]  
      but the descriptions aren’t clear causing a messy read : 
 
[at]  this. ARRUT house. the branch (‘stolen scepter-axis’?). to arrive. 
for. [+to become?] . this. god. serving (matrix-) existence.                  
[in order to be]  (matrix-) existence of hail. ;
[and]  to command (-it) (by) legal law. 
[to be]  the (matrix type-) lights of hail. [of]  thou (‘candidate’). (matrix-) existence. ,
by. […. damaged + skipped rest of line ….] 
[therefore through]  the (praising) Henuit uraei / goddesses. [for]  (matrix-) existence. ,  [1 of 4]  
thou (‘candidate’). (matrix-) existence. to praise. ;
 
[by this]  UR NES pool. [also are]  the gods [1 / 4 of 9] . connected to. praise (‘something is made’). 
[because by]  he=them. [is]  the shoulder (‘bent axis upon which Orion sits’) (RMN).
[as]  the divine (matrix-) seal on the (bent-) finger (‘axis’) (TCHBA).                                        [< Hagg.2]  
(which for-) thou (-sake). (eden-) existence. to strip. ,     +
[to be]  the divine (matrix-) light. [of]  speech of willpower.      [< ‘for RA’] 
[as]  the (matrix-) dimension.  +
which is. [by means of for-]  thou. (eden-) existence. to open (UP). ; [skipped rest of line] 
      so far :
      a) in the Amduat vignette above show “4 groups of 12” and “4 groups of 9” 
           and if we’ve read well we have now one of each ;
      b) that all these deities “sing or praise” means “that they create something” 
           and very probably in the sense of ‘being powered to enchant’ as by Sorcery ;
      c) that Job also has “singing morning stars” is Esau’s corruption :
           for it is in the same section as ‘the door bolt of the gate’ ! , see above ,
           so that the ‘star’ either was “upon his scepter” or “the stars” as in ‘the Eden binary’ 
           [‘to sing’ and ‘harps’ and all that nonsense is typical Esau corruption – also in Revelation] 
      d) the ‘shoulder’ is the bent-axis from the ARRUT-gate to Orion ,
           and from there that axis runs to their Torus north ,
      e) that “the seal on the finger” also shows in Haggai 2 is either Esau’s perversion
           or an original idea but disarmed and moved to the end (-of the chapter) ;
 
      now the crystal floor (?) :
      also because he mákes ‘the 12 hour goddesses’ :
 
[page 28] 
…. the (matrix-) vessel (?) (‘Torus’). [as]  thou. (magical-) (matrix-) boat. [of]  thou. (matrix-) peace. ,
[by to be]  the (12) (matrix-) hours. [as?]  the (matrix-) fire-drill (-towards eden). 
[being?]  the double one (?) (TUTU). to connect to. the (matrix-) day (-light) (-scorching eden). 
[to]  thou. to bring. 
     here ,
     obviously he means ’12’ matrix-hours in 1 matrix-day , 
     and the ‘fire drill’ (TCHA) must be ‘the of the matrix-day towards eden’ ,
     but the line runs badly also because we missed glyphs from the previous line ;
 
     continued — but now we get Lost :
[and]  the (matrix-) night. [for]  thou. the (eden-) one (‘but no subject’) to carry-off. ;
[to be for]  the (matrix-) land. [and her]  fields. the (matrix-) lights. [by]  legal law. ,
[as]  thou. (matrix-) peace. [and for?]  thou. [as?]  the completed ones (?).    +
  [by?]  the double ureaus SASAT (?).                                                                                           [Isis & Nephthys?]  
  [connected to] . to drag (‘drag what & where?’) (STHA). 
  [to be for]  thou. the (matrix-) one of eden-within. ;
  the (matrix-) hour goddess. the one to come. for. to guide. + RA.
  [.. damaged ..] . the darkness (-for eden) (KKK).
  [through]  the divine (goddess-) spirits (‘7 Torches’?). thou. (matrix-) existence. to make to illumine. ;
[therefore?]  ,
[for]  thou. the (matrix) SHI uraei / goddesses (‘to make the realm SH’?). (matrix-) existence to make.
[by]  the word (‘light’). to connect to. to praise […….] . ;
      well , that was quite impossible  —
      only these goddesses have no name but are ‘just spirits’  and we have spells where
      the 7 Torches are called ‘the 7 spirits’ and ‘the 7 utchat eyes’ (‘important concepts’)
      while they do seem “to make to illumine existence” combined with ‘darkness for eden’ ,
      then perhaps “the one carried-off” was ‘the eden floor’ where they stand (stood) upon — 
      a too difficult section ;
     
      next : 2 x 9 apes open the eden gate : [so we’ll have 3 of 4 of 9 , and 2 of 4 of 12]  
 
[by]  the HT apes (‘for the eden-house-H to bé stolen’?). 
[..]  the double (eden-) door. [for]  thou. (matrix-) existence. to open (‘open eden’ SNSH). ,
[so that for?]  the BNT apes (‘for the solar plane B’). […..]  [to be]  the word (‘light’).    +
(for) the double door. [of]  thou. (matrix-) existence. to open (-and to become new) (UN). ;
 
      but now that it’s open , the text runs away :   
      because now ‘the word of the solar plane’ appears and ‘the word to make (-by eden)’ 
      and ‘the light of willpower of speech’ and ‘the (eden-) images (-for the matrix)’ etcetera ,
      all showing in that ARRUT-corner because the gate is opened
 

added : the ‘destiny’ root SHA apart from the divine SHAI as shown here the dictionary also has a SHAU god of fate , but interesting for us is the shown SHA-IT which is not ‘evil destiny’ but the closing glyph is (‘dangerous’) — just as we had in the text above with that one root (P) ; and because it shows a T+\\ it reads , the (dangerous-) double one of destiny again supporting that ‘two sets of roots’ are in play here that are NOT “of them”   they do have a ‘fate goddess’ [because the Ammon sons also ‘cast lots’]

and Plato tells how he saw her deciding which of the lined-up animal-souls
(serpent souls) would be chosen to go to earth and obtain a body here ….
so we need to be careful to keep that theme separate